I had no idea it was so Large!

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Aprisa

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1,829 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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As my mamager is off this week I have to do some work, this means sitting at his Pc, so far today he has received 95 junk emails 55 of which were for "Male Enlargement"!

Is the market for this stuff so massive? maybe I've stumbled across his secret?

Does anyone else get this volume of crap?

Nick

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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You need a spam filter...

http://useast.spamassassin.org/where.html
www.uk.easynet.net/corporate/corporatesolutions_content.asp?id=623
www.cloudmark.com/

I personally use all 3 - it drops around 300 spams per day!

J

Aprisa

Original Poster:

1,829 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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Cheers Joust, will download forthwith!
Do they stop pop-up porn pages as well?
he's got a particularly unpleasant one.

I know this should be on Computers and stuff, sorry chaps.
Nick

jessica

6,321 posts

259 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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Well I am called Jessica,and my mail add is Jessie.I am 100% woman. But i am getting fed up with the male enlargement junk mail also.(I guess it,s because in USA Jessie is a man's name also..)

Podie

46,645 posts

282 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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jessica said:
Well I am called Jessica,and my mail add is Jessie.I am 100% woman. But i am getting fed up with the male enlargement junk mail also.(I guess it,s because in USA Jessie is a man's name also..)


I don't think spam discriminates...

paul r

1,181 posts

291 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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I think the main point is missing here, has anyone ordered any and do they work????

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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Aprisa said:
Cheers Joust, will download forthwith!
Do they stop pop-up porn pages as well?
he's got a particularly unpleasant one.
Depends. If the pop ups are happening because of the HTML email, then yes. If not, then you need a pop-up blocker.

I don't bother with those as I've just loaded a hosts file that blocks most of them - I'll dig the link out tomorrow for you (must run)

P.S. One of the mod's will move the thread if necessary...

J

agent006

12,058 posts

271 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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You only get these from giving your email address to all and sundry. I've had my email on my own domain name for a few years now, and have had less than 10 spam messages. Signed up a test account to one "entertainment" site and it gets over 300 a day now.

lx993

12,214 posts

264 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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Agree with running your own domain for restricting spam - I'm also using an Apple Mac which has a decent heuristics-based spam filter built in.

One sneaky thing to watch is HTML mail. If you have HTML mail set to display images etc., and you view JUST ONE spam message, you're likely to end up on loads of spam lists.

How? Easy. A spam HTML message will contain a link to a picture (HREF) - this will link to the spammer's own web server. When you view the page, the mail client automatically downloads the picture from the server for you. Of course, the spammer's server notes each access and can tell which email addresses have real people looking at them.

Sneaky, and best avoided by turning off all HTML mail. Some mail clients (like mine) can display HTML mail but ignore all web links.

Nacnud

2,190 posts

276 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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lx993 said:
Agree with running your own domain for restricting spam - I'm also using an Apple Mac which has a decent heuristics-based spam filter built in.

One sneaky thing to watch is HTML mail. If you have HTML mail set to display images etc., and you view JUST ONE spam message, you're likely to end up on loads of spam lists.

How? Easy. A spam HTML message will contain a link to a picture (HREF) - this will link to the spammer's own web server. When you view the page, the mail client automatically downloads the picture from the server for you. Of course, the spammer's server notes each access and can tell which email addresses have real people looking at them.

Sneaky, and best avoided by turning off all HTML mail. Some mail clients (like mine) can display HTML mail but ignore all web links.

I hadn't thought of that trick.
I'm going to turn it off right now!
Cheers

jvaughan

6,025 posts

290 months

Tuesday 26th August 2003
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agent006 said:
You only get these from giving your email address to all and sundry. I've had my email on my own domain name for a few years now, and have had less than 10 spam messages. Signed up a test account to one "entertainment" site and it gets over 300 a day now.


I gave my dad an email account. one of my 5 free ones with BTInternet. he doesnt email many people, doesnt post on news groups, and I know for a fact, there is no user infomation configured in his browser, only the pop details in outlook.
he gets on average 30 - 40 emails a day ranging from viagra, to penis enlargments, to university diploma's.

I have also created a test account, and not used it for anything, and still get 50 emails a day from such sites.
I think BT Internet are to blame.

joust

14,622 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th August 2003
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The reason you get spam even if you haven't done anything is simple - spamers no longer look for "valid" accounts, they just dictonary attack (e.g. a.smith@, b.smith@... asmith@ bsmith@ etc) domain names.

HTML email gives them an easy way to track if the email is actually read, and hence they then build up massive "verified" email addresses.

With some open mail servers being able to process >1 million emails per hour, it doesn't take long to email every possible combination of names, initals and letters...

J

Zod

35,295 posts

265 months

Wednesday 27th August 2003
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Just in the last two months, I have started to get about five penis enlargement/viagra emails and the occasional big naturals type thing on my btinternet account. Most of the emails are sent to several people with btinternet addresses. This p*sses me off.

AlexH

2,505 posts

291 months

Wednesday 27th August 2003
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Zod said:
Just in the last two months, I have started to get about five penis enlargement/viagra emails and the occasional big naturals type thing on my btinternet account. Most of the emails are sent to several people with btinternet addresses. This p*sses me off.


I can echo this. I've also not been able to sign up with BT Internets own spam filter, always getting a 'try back later' message, despite trying for several months. Anyone else have experience of this?

Thumper

171 posts

271 months

Wednesday 27th August 2003
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agent006 said:
You only get these from giving your email address to all and sundry.


I don't believe this is true. Publishing your email address anywhere on the Internet, even once, is enough for it to be picked up. If it can be verified by the spammer (as discussed), then they'll do the task of spreading it to all and sundry.

I still use Outlook, and I believe it has one very serious fault (among many, perhaps), and that is the fact that all emails are downloaded from the server irrespective of their source. On the old Compuserve system that I used for many years (until I closed the account because of excessive spam!) you could, at least, view the mail on the remote server before accepting anything. That way I could delete the junk and suspect stuff before committing to the download. If someone can tell me that this is actually possible with Outlook I'd be delighted!

(PS I find this discussion about penis enlargement and pop-ups in the same context seriously disconcerting.)

GregE240

10,857 posts

274 months

Wednesday 27th August 2003
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Course it is. Just use something like MailWasher or Mail2web.com and don't download the cack.

davidd

6,529 posts

291 months

Wednesday 27th August 2003
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Thumper

If you are working with Outlook you can tell it to only download the headers, mark the ones you don't want for deletion and then get the rest.

D.

Don

28,377 posts

291 months

Wednesday 27th August 2003
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paul r said:
I think the main point is missing here, has anyone ordered any and do they work????



And all without any unpleasant hanging weights....


OUCH!