One for the networking gurus

[cirks]

Can one of you guys help please..?

I need to link up my work laptop with my home PC for file sharing and printing. The details of what I have and tried are below.

Laptop :
W2K Server
DHCP IP normally
Name = companydomainmachinename

HomePC :
Win98Se
StaticIP
Workgroup = JCirkel
N/w card

I have a cross-over cable.

I know I need to set the work laptop to have a static IP in the same subnet so have the two machines just one IP num different. I obviously can't change the laptop to be part of the same worgroup as the home PC.

Probably easiest if I leave it there and someone can give me full pointers as to how to get these things set up properly!

Thanks in advance and please ask if you need more info.

[ErnestM]

You have Win2k Server on a LAPTOP?

ErnestM

[annodomini2]

If you're DHCP is configured correctly, you should need static ip addresses

[cirks]

ErnestM said:

You have Win2k Server on a LAPTOP? ErnestM

er, yes! What's wrong with that? It's not a problem and is necessary for my job.

annodomini2 said:

If you're DHCP is configured correctly, you should need static ip addresses

Is that what you actually meant or is there a 'not' missing somewhere? If you did mean that I should not need a static IP then how am I going to get this thing set up?


Anyone with details on how to do this?

[alunr]

Give your home PC an IP address of 192.168.32.10 and your Laptop an address of 192.168.32.11

Setup sharing on your home pc and you should be able to browse you home pc from your server.

Trying to do it the other way should be fine except you keep having to login to your "Server"

The workgroup thing is no problem at all.

If you open internet explorer and type \ twice (teds anti scrpt thingy won't let me type it!) and then the IP address eg 192.168.32.10 then that should show you all the shared resources.

Any other probs drop me a mail

>> Edited by alunr on Thursday 3rd July 14:44

>> Edited by alunr on Thursday 3rd July 14:44

[cirks]

Alun,

thanks. I'll try to give it a go this evening.

[ErnestM]

cirks said:

ErnestM said: You have Win2k Server on a LAPTOP? ErnestM er, yes! What's wrong with that? It's not a problem and is necessary for my job.

Nothing wrong with it, I'm just jealous and am now experiencing "laptop envy"...

ErnestM

[FourWheelDrift]

I have an identical setup here where I have connected my desktop to my laptop via a crossover cable, the desktop is connected to the internet via USB modem. Both computers can file share and access the internet at the same time.

One thing I'm pretty sure about is that have to have the same Workgroup names, if you can't change the work's laptop workgroup name, change the desktop to match the laptop.

TCP/IP Properties on both should be something like this.

Desktop
IP address - 192.168.0.1
Subnet mask - 255.255.255.0

DNS server settings (if needed) get from your ISP)

Laptop
IP address - get this from your laptop by typing IPCONFIG /ALL at a DOS prompt
Subnet mask - 255.255.255.0

DNS settings - as above.


think I've covered things here. If anything doesn't immediately work you might need to reboot the machines

PS - make sure you are sharing the folders/drives you want to on each PC (right click on the drives/click sharing)

>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Thursday 3rd July 19:44

[arcturus]

Just to clarify the Workgroup name issue once and for all. Your computers do not have to be part of the same workgroup to share files etc. I have three separate workgroups, all with different names (obvious, but I thought i'd say it anyway) on my local network and they can all share files and resources quite happily. You can put policies in place to prevent this, but they are not there by default.

It is possible of course that your work laptop does have a policy in place preventing it from connecting to other domains or workgroups but you would need to ask your sysadmin about that.

Dave Clarke
www.arctsys.co.uk

[cirks]

ErnestM said:

Nothing wrong with it, I'm just jealous and am now experiencing "laptop envy"... ErnestM

I can guarantee that you wouldn't be envious if you knew that the laptop has a knackered DEL key and down-cursor which makes using it a pain in the arse! There is dodgy connection which means that to CTRL-ALT-DEL to logon I have to bend the whole machine so that the relevant contact between electrical bits is Ok ! Other than that it's ok I suppose.....

[cirks]

Right, no luck so far.

I have the IP addresses set so that they are 1 apart with same subnet mask.

I can ping the laptop from the desktop but not vice versa and therefore not surprisingly I can't see any of the shared resources on the desktop from the laptop.

Despite being able to ping it, I can't 'see' anything on the laptop from the desktop.

Next steps please?

[sjg]

cirks said:

Right, no luck so far. I have the IP addresses set so that they are 1 apart with same subnet mask. I can ping the laptop from the desktop but not vice versa and therefore not surprisingly I can't see any of the shared resources on the desktop from the laptop. Despite being able to ping it, I can't 'see' anything on the laptop from the desktop. Next steps please?

Any firewall software (zonealarm, norton, kerio) on the desktop PC?

[FourWheelDrift]

cirks said:

Right, no luck so far. I have the IP addresses set so that they are 1 apart with same subnet mask. I can ping the laptop from the desktop but not vice versa and therefore not surprisingly I can't see any of the shared resources on the desktop from the laptop. Despite being able to ping it, I can't 'see' anything on the laptop from the desktop. Next steps please?

Don't set a IP address 1 apart (it might not be the right one), you need the actual IP address of the laptop and desktops, to get this do IPCONFIG /ALL at a DOS prompt on the laptop and the desktop, this will give their IP addresses. These are the addresses you use.

Edited to say - if you do have a firewall as mentioned above you need to put each computers IP address in the others firewall "allowed/trusted zone address".

>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Thursday 3rd July 23:29

[cirks]

sjg said:

Any firewall software (zonealarm, norton, kerio) on the desktop PC?

DOH! What an idiot! I'll reconfigure it later and see if that helps. I don't know, I tell Ted that I have Norton Firewall software on a mail earlier in the day then forget that I have it when I'm trying to set something up for myself. Time to go outside and put myself out of my misery!

[andyf007]

You do have a user account on the server and you are logging on to the domain with that account when the PC starts up aren't you?

Andy

[cirks]

andyf007 said:

You do have a user account on the server and you are logging on to the domain with that account when the PC starts up aren't you? Andy

Unless I'm missing something then, yes, I have an account on the laptop as it is my work one so would struggle to make money without one ;-)

Anyway, I have an account mycompanydomainjonathanc on the laptop. The bit in your mail that I'm not sure as to what you meant is the "and you are logging on to the domain with that account when the PC starts up aren't you?". If you mean do I log on to the LAPTOP with the domain account when it starts up then the answer is yes. If you mean the desktop (PC) then the answer is NO as it isn't associated with the domain nor will it have the same user ids etc.

Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here

Thanks all for your help.

[alunr]

This is why I suggest you just create a shared area on the home pc to share things in else you'll be getting into permissions etc to access the laptop from your home pc (you really do'nt want to start messing with those!)

Alun

[marlboro]

I use FTP, easier to setup than MS shares and much more secure.