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OK, I'm getting fed up with recieving 15 plus emails a day about utter crap.
I cant block the senders because they always come from different domains.
The question is;
Do I click the link on each email that says "unsubscribe" or whatever? I was told before NOT to as it would just tell the scrote that I was reading the emails and my account was active? Any ideas
I cant block the senders because they always come from different domains.
The question is;
Do I click the link on each email that says "unsubscribe" or whatever? I was told before NOT to as it would just tell the scrote that I was reading the emails and my account was active? Any ideas
www.mcafee.com/myapps/msk/default.asp
or some such...
The only thing that products like this do not do is send a "fake" bad mail adress response. To do that, you would need a server based anti spam system...
ErnestM
or some such...
The only thing that products like this do not do is send a "fake" bad mail adress response. To do that, you would need a server based anti spam system...
ErnestM
The question is;
Do I click the link on each email that says "unsubscribe" or whatever? I was told before NOT to as it would just tell the scrote that I was reading the emails and my account was active? Any ideas
Definitely not - confirms that your e-mail is working - and that you read the spam too.
Personally I use a Hotmail account whenever a website is looking for an e-mail address and that seems to keep my personal e-mail clear of spam. Of course, once you start getting spam it seems to never stop so that may be a bit like shutting the stable door at this stage.
I have the similar problem. The nature of my business means spiders etc. get my email address dead easy. I have bought the spam inspector at:
www.giantcompany.com/company.aspx
Very good product. You still get spam but you can mark it as spam and never get more from the same email address. It also will bounce the email back although I'm not convciced on how effective this is. The main advantage is it quarentines them so you can check for any non-spam. My settings are quite low to accept if in doubt (some of my clients/students may email for the first time) but you can also set it to higher security (ie only from friends etc.) I've found it very useful. Hope that helps.
www.giantcompany.com/company.aspx
Very good product. You still get spam but you can mark it as spam and never get more from the same email address. It also will bounce the email back although I'm not convciced on how effective this is. The main advantage is it quarentines them so you can check for any non-spam. My settings are quite low to accept if in doubt (some of my clients/students may email for the first time) but you can also set it to higher security (ie only from friends etc.) I've found it very useful. Hope that helps.
Tips
1).You need two email addresses.
Much like a home number and a mobile number
you would give a mobile number to most people,
the home number is for friends and family.
Similarly, you have a work/personal email for trusted friends and contacts. Your second email is for mailing lists, online friends/associates, publishing on your website e.t.c
2). Never put your email address as a link on your website.
Ideally you could use a small image (GIF preferred)
with the text. These spiders/robots that crawl the web cannot read and harvest email address in this form.
(it takes the human eye to read it)
3.) never post your website address in newsgroups /public lists.
4.) If your part of a 11-a-side/car/tennis/events mailing list, make sure the admin /company in charge is using mailing list software. Just putting everyones email address in the cc field is bad. There are plenty of free mailing list programs which makes it easy for users to subscribe and unsubscribe.
5.) set up filters which weed out emails with
hair loss
septic tanks
build muscle fast
russian brides
(this is what my personal filters are set to)
Good luck !
1).You need two email addresses.
Much like a home number and a mobile number
you would give a mobile number to most people,
the home number is for friends and family.
Similarly, you have a work/personal email for trusted friends and contacts. Your second email is for mailing lists, online friends/associates, publishing on your website e.t.c
2). Never put your email address as a link on your website.
Ideally you could use a small image (GIF preferred)
with the text. These spiders/robots that crawl the web cannot read and harvest email address in this form.
(it takes the human eye to read it)
3.) never post your website address in newsgroups /public lists.
4.) If your part of a 11-a-side/car/tennis/events mailing list, make sure the admin /company in charge is using mailing list software. Just putting everyones email address in the cc field is bad. There are plenty of free mailing list programs which makes it easy for users to subscribe and unsubscribe.
5.) set up filters which weed out emails with
hair loss
septic tanks
build muscle fast
russian brides
(this is what my personal filters are set to)
Good luck !
2). Never put your email address as a link on your website.
Ideally you could use a small image (GIF preferred)
with the text. These spiders/robots that crawl the web cannot read and harvest email address in this form.
(it takes the human eye to read it)
Not sure thats true I believe the spiders/robots read the HTML not the page. Therefore there is no difference between a text hyperlink and a graphic hyperlink as the HREF would be exactly the same.
smeagol said:
2). Never put your email address as a link on your website.
Ideally you could use a small image (GIF preferred)
with the text. These spiders/robots that crawl the web cannot read and harvest email address in this form.
(it takes the human eye to read it)
Not sure thats true I believe the spiders/robots read the HTML not the page. Therefore there is no difference between a text hyperlink and a graphic hyperlink as the HREF would be exactly the same.
I suspect he means that if you want to put your email address on a web page, put it in an IMG that cannot be read by a spider, rather than in an mailto: URL.
According to recent research, most spammers are getting their email addresses from web sites these days.
sorry it was not clear.
That is exactly what I meant.
type your email address in a graphics program and save it. Then place this image on your page.
To email you, a person would have to type your address into their e-mail program.
Clicking on the image does nothing (it is not a hyperlink ).
Regards,
That is exactly what I meant.
type your email address in a graphics program and save it. Then place this image on your page.
To email you, a person would have to type your address into their e-mail program.
Clicking on the image does nothing (it is not a hyperlink ).
Regards,
Another technique to hide your email address from spammers is to use a bit of javascrpt to write the email address on the client machine, simple spider programs shouldn't spot the email address that way e.g.
<html>
<body>
<a name="mailto" href="">email me</a>
<scrpt language="JavaScript1.1">
var me = "rsvnigel";
var at = "@";
var domain = "pistonheads.com";
document.links.mailto.href="mailto:" + me + at + domain;
</scrpt>
</body>
</html>
<html>
<body>
<a name="mailto" href="">email me</a>
<scrpt language="JavaScript1.1">
var me = "rsvnigel";
var at = "@";
var domain = "pistonheads.com";
document.links.mailto.href="mailto:" + me + at + domain;
</scrpt>
</body>
</html>
Robertuk said:
5.) set up filters which weed out emails with
hair loss
septic tanks
build muscle fast
russian brides
(this is what my personal filters are set to)
Septic tanks ?
I only ever get 'Rezolve [sic] your credit problem' and 'Impress the girls with your 10 inches...' (err 
, no thanks) 
rsvnigel said: Another technique to hide your email address from spammers is to use a bit of javascrpt to write the email address on the client machine, simple spider programs shouldn't spot the email address that way e.g.
email me
var me = "rsvnigel";
var at = "@";
var domain = "pistonheads.com";
document.links.mailto.href="mailto:" + me + at + domain;
rsvnigel : the above scrpt wont work .... I've spotted the "scrpt" should be "scrpt" (2 places) but even changing that, it just opens the folder where the .html file is held .... ?
Ta
Edited to say : is the forum changing / interpretting the scrpt ?
Edited to say : it must be ! cos I keep typing "s c r i p t" and it automatically removes the "i" .... so what else has it changed ?
>> Edited by nevpugh308 on Thursday 12th June 10:44
I know it's Teds software keeps removing the 'i' from s c r i p t and J a v a S c r i p t... 
fookin VB programming numpties 
Edited to say it is just the < s c r i p t > tag that has been renamed.
Edited again cos it freaked on < s and went into strikethough mode
>> Edited by rsvnigel on Thursday 12th June 11:04
fookin VB programming numpties Edited to say it is just the < s c r i p t > tag that has been renamed.
Edited again cos it freaked on < s and went into strikethough mode
>> Edited by rsvnigel on Thursday 12th June 11:04
rsvnigel ...... still doesn't work mate ... this is what I've got :
< html>
< body>
< a name="mailto" href="">email me< /a>
< scr ipt language="JavaScr ipt1.1">
var me = "rsvnigel";
var at = "@";
var domain = "pistonheads.com";
document.links.mailto.href="mailto:" + me + at + domain;
< /scr ipt>
< /body>
< /html>
(ignoring the extra spaces of course)
but all it does it open a folder (my desktop as it happens, as that's where the html file is)
thanks for your help
< html>
< body>
< a name="mailto" href="">email me< /a>
< scr ipt language="JavaScr ipt1.1">
var me = "rsvnigel";
var at = "@";
var domain = "pistonheads.com";
document.links.mailto.href="mailto:" + me + at + domain;
< /scr ipt>
< /body>
< /html>
(ignoring the extra spaces of course)
but all it does it open a folder (my desktop as it happens, as that's where the html file is)
thanks for your help
One of my PC gurus set up a spam test. He opened a new account and sat back to wait for the spam to arrive. When it did, he studiously clicked on every 'unsubscribe' and 'delete' link that was provided. Some people say this is a bad idea because it simply tells the spammers that your address works. However, he said that 90% of the spam disappeared...
NB I find Message rules (Message/Create rule from message) are rather more useful than simply blocking e-mail. And several people are no longer on my TVR mailing list becasue they put anti-spam filters in and forgot to tell me!
NB I find Message rules (Message/Create rule from message) are rather more useful than simply blocking e-mail. And several people are no longer on my TVR mailing list becasue they put anti-spam filters in and forgot to tell me!
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