Using Smartphone After Security Updates Abandoned
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So my trusty Samsung S22 Ultra will no longer be receiving security updates as of next year. It hasn't received any sort of update for some time now, which I know is a trick tech companies use to force you into a new phone. The thing is the phone was £1200.00 and to only last 4 years is pretty poor.
If I remove google wallet, banking apps, shopping apps etc. from the phone, what risk am I at of potential data leaks, viruses, hacks etc?
If I remove google wallet, banking apps, shopping apps etc. from the phone, what risk am I at of potential data leaks, viruses, hacks etc?
That's shocking - though it seem it'll receive support until 2027.
https://endoflife.date/samsung-mobile
https://endoflife.date/samsung-mobile
Samsung only support their phones for five years, which is why we recently switched to Google phones. They get seven years' support.
Yours will continue to work perfectly well for two or three years yet. Eventually, your banking apps will stop working, and that's when you know it's time to change.
Yours will continue to work perfectly well for two or three years yet. Eventually, your banking apps will stop working, and that's when you know it's time to change.
I wouldn't worry too much, my Samsung only gets updates every 3 months as it is.
What most people don't realise is the length of support isn't from when you buy the phone it's from the date of release which can be a good time apart.
I'm old enough to remember when you were lucky to get 1 year of security updates and 1 android OS update and that was it
What most people don't realise is the length of support isn't from when you buy the phone it's from the date of release which can be a good time apart.
I'm old enough to remember when you were lucky to get 1 year of security updates and 1 android OS update and that was it
Doofus said:
Samsung only support their phones for five years, which is why we recently switched to Google phones. They get seven years' support.
Yours will continue to work perfectly well for two or three years yet. Eventually, your banking apps will stop working, and that's when you know it's time to change.
I think the S22 gets 4 years OS and 5 years security updates and I believe it was from the S24 onward that 7 years of both became standard.Yours will continue to work perfectly well for two or three years yet. Eventually, your banking apps will stop working, and that's when you know it's time to change.
xx99xx said:
Surely these things are known when buying? So not sure this is such a surprise. Is it a surprise that the phone is still useable, as in my experience, batteries are shot after 3 years.
Recently changed my S21 at 5 years old due to the "no longer receiving updates" issue and the battery was fine in mine. I have an old Oneplus 5 (mainly used as an alarm clock now) which is 9 years old and the battery in that still holds a decent charge.Mr-B said:
Recently changed my S21 at 5 years old due to the "no longer receiving updates" issue and the battery was fine in mine. I have an old Oneplus 5 (mainly used as an alarm clock now) which is 9 years old and the battery in that still holds a decent charge.
Must be just me then. After 2 years my phone battery doesn't last all day. After 3 years, it lasts half a day. I am perhaps a heavy user as I don't use a laptop for other computing needs, it's all phone based. I'm typing this on my phone.xx99xx said:
Surely these things are known when buying? So not sure this is such a surprise. Is it a surprise that the phone is still useable, as in my experience, batteries are shot after 3 years.
If that was the case then surely anyone with any sense would simply pay the £80 for Samsung to fit a new battery to the £1200 phone rather than dispose of it.The banks won't alllow their apps to be installed on versions of OS that are old enough that they deem them insecure. And for that, they need to be VERY old. I have old phones as backups which still function just fine for banking.
Personally,I find the support/security thing a whole big nothing-burger. Phones are so rarely hacked it isn't a big issue on the 1st place. I'd certainly not retire a £1200 phone over it.
Personally,I find the support/security thing a whole big nothing-burger. Phones are so rarely hacked it isn't a big issue on the 1st place. I'd certainly not retire a £1200 phone over it.
JoshSm said:
Doofus said:
Griffith4ever said:
Phones are so rarely hacked it isn't a big issue on the 1st place. I'd certainly not retire a £1200 phone over it.
If your banking apps no longer work, you'll have to.Why anyone would spend £1,200, or even £500 on a phone is a mystery to me.
Having said which, I do have a tablet too, so my phone is essentially only used as a telephone, a payment card, a camera and an alarm clock.
Griffith4ever said:
The banks won't alllow their apps to be installed on versions of OS that are old enough that they deem them insecure. And for that, they need to be VERY old. I have old phones as backups which still function just fine for banking.
Personally,I find the support/security thing a whole big nothing-burger. Phones are so rarely hacked it isn't a big issue on the 1st place. I'd certainly not retire a £1200 phone over it.
Exactly.Personally,I find the support/security thing a whole big nothing-burger. Phones are so rarely hacked it isn't a big issue on the 1st place. I'd certainly not retire a £1200 phone over it.
I dont know what people think is going to happen the second a phone company stops issuing security updates?
And it certinaly does not make the phone obsolete.
This thread made me look this subject up since my wife has an S21U. That's no longer gets security updates (not that I'd bothered to check until this thread), and yet it still works just fine, including her banking app - why wouldn't it?
Looking online, all I could find were third party companies offering you their services for such phones. Oooooo - scary !!
snuffy said:
Griffith4ever said:
The banks won't alllow their apps to be installed on versions of OS that are old enough that they deem them insecure. And for that, they need to be VERY old. I have old phones as backups which still function just fine for banking.
Personally,I find the support/security thing a whole big nothing-burger. Phones are so rarely hacked it isn't a big issue on the 1st place. I'd certainly not retire a £1200 phone over it.
Exactly.Personally,I find the support/security thing a whole big nothing-burger. Phones are so rarely hacked it isn't a big issue on the 1st place. I'd certainly not retire a £1200 phone over it.
I dont know what people think is going to happen the second a phone company stops issuing security updates?
And it certinaly does not make the phone obsolete.
This thread made me look this subject up since my wife has an S21U. That's no longer gets security updates (not that I'd bothered to check until this thread), and yet it still works just fine, including her banking app - why wouldn't it?
Looking online, all I could find were third party companies offering you their services for such phones. Oooooo - scary !!
Keep an eye on the S22U, I had one till the S26U came out. The battery was showing signs of wear and got good deal on a trade in so decided to upgrade.
The day my new phone arrived the S22U broke, turns out there is a common fault with failed solder joints. Luckily got my bank insurance to replace it which I then traded in but lost about £75 on the deal.
Just saying you might be on borrowed time anyway.
The day my new phone arrived the S22U broke, turns out there is a common fault with failed solder joints. Luckily got my bank insurance to replace it which I then traded in but lost about £75 on the deal.
Just saying you might be on borrowed time anyway.
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