swap 7pro for XP Pro?

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spannertech

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Friday 24th January
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I have a Samsung NC10 running 7Pro and I want to run XP Pro to run a JLR program for my old Jaguar. Someone has had a go at installing the JLR program but 7 doesn't like it, and that's why I want to change over to XP Pro. I've a feeling that this laptop was originally running XP Pro.
I have a XP Pro installation disc with a key and I can get it to start loading but it stops about a minute into installing to say that the JLR program is still running (which it isnt) so I've had a look and it says the file is open in "XML Registry Deamon". Anyone know how I can get out of this problem? Thanks.

bangerhoarder

624 posts

80 months

Friday 24th January
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You'll want to install it from boot, not in-place within the OS. That means wiping what's there and starting again.

spannertech

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Friday 24th January
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Thanks for the reply. Will I need a service disc of some kind in order to "wipe" it? I'f so, what would I be looking for? Thanks.

OutInTheShed

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38 months

Friday 24th January
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I used to run some ancient flaky software using an XP mode in a 'virtual machine'. On a Win 7 PC.

For some reason, the software worked OK in Win10.

bangerhoarder

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spannertech said:
Thanks for the reply. Will I need a service disc of some kind in order to "wipe" it? I'f so, what would I be looking for? Thanks.
Just the Windows XP installer. You can use something like Rufus to make a bootable USB stick to do this if you don't have a USB CD drive. Then you go into the BIOS and boot it from the CD or USB.

As suggested, running an XP VM within Windows 7 may work too, so long as it can access the ports/interfaces etc needed for the software.

spannertech

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Hi, yes that I have heard before. Probably inside a VM which makes it run quite sowly.
I think though, I may be better of buying a blank formatted drive to save all this agro as there are quite a few on the market at the moment. Probably need to download the drivers if I can find them. What do you think?

ARHarh

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119 months

Friday 24th January
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It sounds like with your experience you are going to get in a mess with this. No Offence intended smile Are you going to want to use this laptop again with win 7? If so you might want to just swap the hard drive for another secondhand one and start a new install.

If you don't have any desire to use win 7 again without doing a new install then just reboot the pc with the disc in the slot and enter the boot menu and pick the CD. The pc manufacturer will tell you which key to press when booting up to enter the boot menu. Then follow the prompts.

spannertech

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ARHarh said:
It sounds like with your experience you are going to get in a mess with this. No Offence intended smile Are you going to want to use this laptop again with win 7? If so you might want to just swap the hard drive for another secondhand one and start a new install.

If you don't have any desire to use win 7 again without doing a new install then just reboot the pc with the disc in the slot and enter the boot menu and pick the CD. The pc manufacturer will tell you which key to press when booting up to enter the boot menu. Then follow the prompts.
I wont be using 7 again. I have an external CD drive and an XP Pro disc. I've started the pc and pushed the space bar to get to the drive and it started to load but stops a minute or so into loading and tells me the JLR prog is still open in XML Registry Deamon. Whatever that is. If I can close it I may be on a winner. Or the idea of a new HD may be a better bet?

Craikeybaby

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237 months

Friday 24th January
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Which JLR program? Some of them can be a bit fussy. We ended up having a fleet of old laptops for all of the JLR tools, and nobody dared to change anything on them because setting things up again was a nightmare.

ARHarh

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You need to boot the PC from the XP install disc. you will need to press a key when the bios is loading, the black and white text or pc logo before windows starts to load. Normally delete or f9 but could be anything.

spannertech

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Craikeybaby said:
Which JLR program? Some of them can be a bit fussy. We ended up having a fleet of old laptops for all of the JLR tools, and nobody dared to change anything on them because setting things up again was a nightmare.
Yes, JLR are a bit shaykey! The problem being that in order to get a prog, it is usually a second hand effort and the original used to run through a Rotunda VCM1 link cable. Then Drewtech came up with their "mongoose" cable when the VCM1s became rare. All this is to be able to read the vehicle codes on the early models of which there are still many on the road.
The reason I wish to instal this on this Samsung NC10 is that its a notebook and its just the right size machine to work on these vehicles. Its just that whoever has had their fingers in this one hasn't done me any favours.

spannertech

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Oh, and the programe is V130 which doesn't need updates, so ideal.

Craikeybaby

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That one sounds like it was before my time - the best device we had for working on the cars was a rugged handheld touchscreen PC - much chunkier than an iPad, but running bespoke diagnostic software for JLR.

spannertech

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Yes. Originally on a Panasonic Toughbook but from 96 to about 2005 when the full SDD system was then worldwide which left the early cars right out in the cold and as time has passed, almost impossible to read the modules. Typical of Jaguar who don't support their models once they become five years old. Same for parts as well.