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Hello,
3TB WD drive I've had in my system for at least 5 years. Nothing important on it just used for media storage.
Copying some files off the drive a few days ago it just hung up.
It's about 90% full.
chkdsk /f reported no errors
chkdsk /r ran for about 30 hours, didnt complete, hung up.
Crystal disk report says,
can it be saved, is it worth saving? When these errors start is it the beginning of the end?
3TB WD drive I've had in my system for at least 5 years. Nothing important on it just used for media storage.
Copying some files off the drive a few days ago it just hung up.
It's about 90% full.
chkdsk /f reported no errors
chkdsk /r ran for about 30 hours, didnt complete, hung up.
Crystal disk report says,
can it be saved, is it worth saving? When these errors start is it the beginning of the end?
Not worth investigating for the sake of £60. How much is your time worth? Get as much data off as you can and ditch it.
I’ve had a couple go, it’s silly random stuff like this in the beginning, that just gets worse. The first failure, I tried to diagnose it, reformatted it, reinstalled windows etc. It was such a massive waste of time. Must have spent a two or three evenings in it, before the disk stopped spinning up altogether.
My friend who works in a data centre told me they are considered disposable items, tiny squeak of a failure out of one, it gets pulled out of the rack and chucked. No one wastes time trying to figure out what the problem is.
I took the same mindset with the 2nd one that start booting with smart errors. Cloned it, chucked it.
Will also say, all these checks and scans you are doing, are probably helping its demise. Get the data off first if you must fiddle. Any whiff of a failure, getting the data off should be the first port of call.
I’ve had a couple go, it’s silly random stuff like this in the beginning, that just gets worse. The first failure, I tried to diagnose it, reformatted it, reinstalled windows etc. It was such a massive waste of time. Must have spent a two or three evenings in it, before the disk stopped spinning up altogether.
My friend who works in a data centre told me they are considered disposable items, tiny squeak of a failure out of one, it gets pulled out of the rack and chucked. No one wastes time trying to figure out what the problem is.
I took the same mindset with the 2nd one that start booting with smart errors. Cloned it, chucked it.
Will also say, all these checks and scans you are doing, are probably helping its demise. Get the data off first if you must fiddle. Any whiff of a failure, getting the data off should be the first port of call.
Edited by wyson on Friday 1st November 07:49
I've had some positively ancient HDDs... At least you get some warning with spinning rust, had my 2 TB SSD go a few months ago with absolutely no warning. Just stopped working one day, just a few days out from being 4 yes old. It was just my steam drive so nothing of value was lost but still annoying.
However the advice is still the same. No point in trying to save the drive, HDDs are cheap, get a replacement and copy the data across.
However the advice is still the same. No point in trying to save the drive, HDDs are cheap, get a replacement and copy the data across.
wyson said:
My friend who works in a data centre told me they are considered disposable items, tiny squeak of a failure out of one, it gets pulled out of the rack and chucked. No one wastes time trying to figure out what the problem is.
Yep... Part of my role is to manage data centre kit and in there I have a Ceph cluster (bigly lots of HDDs). 2x strikes and the HDD is swapped out. We monitor failure rates and use those figures for purchasing, so we can make sure we have enough spares on the shelf, ready to go.HDDs are a consumable item; they're also a mechanical item, so it's not a case of 'IF' it fails, it's 'WHEN'. This is why HDDs quote figures for MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure).
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Jinx said:
That was quite a slow drive (5400 rpm) - If you can't justify an SSD (2TB are fairly reasonable now) I would probably aim for a 7200 rpm if you can. I always try to upgrade at least a little when something fails.
it's just a media storage drive - 5400rpm is finethe os is on an nvme ssd
Drive Blind said:
had a look at the failing hdd, date of manufacture is 2016.
my own fault for not realising I had so much stuff on such an old drive. D'oh, need to pay attention in future.
You just made me look at my drives and yep one is at caution (2TB HDD - had it since 2017) so I'll be shopping as well. my own fault for not realising I had so much stuff on such an old drive. D'oh, need to pay attention in future.
Got my new hdd installed,, I went for an 8TB WD Blue
so far encountered about 35 files that won't copy across, out of the 6000+ files that are on the hdd.
I might leave it connected up and use it as an experiment to see if any tools or utilities can copy the affected files off the drive,, incase I ever need to do this in the future with more critical data.
so far encountered about 35 files that won't copy across, out of the 6000+ files that are on the hdd.
I might leave it connected up and use it as an experiment to see if any tools or utilities can copy the affected files off the drive,, incase I ever need to do this in the future with more critical data.
so just to conclude this,
the 35 or so files that wouldn't copy, I eventually got that down to about 15. Some of the problem files would copy but it took hours.
I had to reboot my pc for another reason and now my mobo bios is telling me the hdd is bad.
CrystalDiskInfo has also now moved from caution to bad
hdd will be getting removed and skipped.
the 35 or so files that wouldn't copy, I eventually got that down to about 15. Some of the problem files would copy but it took hours.
I had to reboot my pc for another reason and now my mobo bios is telling me the hdd is bad.
CrystalDiskInfo has also now moved from caution to bad
hdd will be getting removed and skipped.
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