extending bt to the shed

[petemurphy]

Hi,

Advise for a friend pls

They have bt broadband with the discs but want to connect a shed 30m away. Theres a tree in the way but they are running new power to it. They cannot easily get ethernet to the hub from the shed.

questions are:

can you connect ethernet from disc in the shed to a disc in the house rather than the hub as they can get to a disc?
are powerline adapters any good ive never used them would they be best in this case?
any better options?


Thanks

[ooo000ooo]

petemurphy said:

Hi,

Advise for a friend pls

They have bt broadband with the discs but want to connect a shed 30m away. Theres a tree in the way but they are running new power to it. They cannot easily get ethernet to the hub from the shed.

questions are:

can you connect ethernet from disc in the shed to a disc in the house rather than the hub as they can get to a disc?
are powerline adapters any good ive never used them would they be best in this case?
any better options?


Thanks

I use powerline adaptors to get internet out into my fancy shed, plug a disc into one of the ports for (stable) wifi and a switch into the other port for wired stuff. probably less than 10m, so less than you.

[Magnum 475]

petemurphy said:

Hi,

Advise for a friend pls

Theres a tree in the way but they are running new power to it. They cannot easily get ethernet to the hub from the shed.


Thanks

Obvious question: if they're running power, why can't they run ethernet in parallel? This seems to be the obvious answer. A reliable connection of 30m without cable is not going to be easy. I'd typically use something like this: https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/category/all-wifi/pr... if I couldn't cable something, but it's not cheap.

[thebraketester]

Magnum 475 said:

petemurphy said:

Hi,

Advise for a friend pls

Theres a tree in the way but they are running new power to it. They cannot easily get ethernet to the hub from the shed.


Thanks

Obvious question: if they're running power, why can't they run ethernet in parallel? This seems to be the obvious answer. A reliable connection of 30m without cable is not going to be easy. I'd typically use something like this: https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/category/all-wifi/pr... if I couldn't cable something, but it's not cheap.

A couple of nanostations would be cheaper.

Edited by thebraketester on Monday 14th October 15:05

[Rough101]

You can plug the cable into a disc if they can’t get it to the hub, just position a disc near where the power cable comes in and run it with that.

[petemurphy]

Rough101 said:

You can plug the cable into a disc if they can’t get it to the hub, just position a disc near where the power cable comes in and run it with that.

thanks does it just work like that - you dont have to make the disc a repeater or something?

[petemurphy]

Magnum 475 said:

Obvious question: if they're running power, why can't they run ethernet in parallel? This seems to be the obvious answer. A reliable connection of 30m without cable is not going to be easy. I'd typically use something like this: https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/category/all-wifi/pr... if I couldn't cable something, but it's not cheap.

they cant easily get to the hub from outside which is why i wondered can you just plug into a disc thats on wifi thanks

[RizzoTheRat]

petemurphy said:

they cant easily get to the hub from outside which is why i wondered can you just plug into a disc thats on wifi thanks

Not sure on the BT discs specifically, but most mesh systems have ethernet ports and can be used as wireless bridge. ie ethernet from router to one node, wifi connection from that node to another, and then ethernet from the second node to the computer. In which case one option may be to run an ethernet cable from the house to the shed, and put a disk on both ends of the cable. The one in the house talks to another disk in the house, and the one n the shed gives you wifi in there.

[Rough101]

petemurphy said:

thanks does it just work like that - you dont have to make the disc a repeater or something?

The disc is a repeater. They have a port at the back.

From BT:

Can I connect a device (for example, printer or games console) to the Ethernet port of the Whole Home Wi-Fi discs?

Your first disc will use the Ethernet port to connect to your hub (router). On the other discs you can use the Ethernet port to connect other wired devices to the network.

[petemurphy]

Thanks all

[ooo000ooo]

Rough101 said:

The disc is a repeater. They have a port at the back.

From BT:

Can I connect a device (for example, printer or games console) to the Ethernet port of the Whole Home Wi-Fi discs?

Your first disc will use the Ethernet port to connect to your hub (router). On the other discs you can use the Ethernet port to connect other wired devices to the network.

If it's the free discs none of them need to be connected via ethernet, you can connect any wired device to the ethernet port.

[Arlen]

As others have said, run a physical cable it makes life so much better.

Mine is run into an access point (actually a router pretending to be one) with WiFi setup so I can use my phone down there too then a PC hardwired into the access point.

Have had to redo the cabling once as I had ran it at low level and it had a puppy vs cable accident. Puppy teeth are better at stripping external grade Cat5 than the proper tools.

Second time I have run a catenary wire from the house to the shed and zip tied the cable to it. Definitely buy external grade if you are doing this. I used a kit off eBay which came with 100m cable (nice to have spare...), two wall boxes and face plates and punch down tools to terminate the wall boxes.

If running cable I would recommend doing this as you can then use fly leads to any equipment as terminating the plugs is more of a pain than terminating into wall boxes.

[sgrimshaw]

This works a treat for me, further than 30m too

TP-Link AV1300 Gigabit Passthrough Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit,up to 1200 Mbps WiFi speed,Wi-Fi Extender,Extra Power Socket (TL-WPA8631P KIT)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08LW5VPPV?psc=1&r...

[interstellar]

I did the same with Tp link. Very straightforward way of doing it.