Blu Ray vs DVD

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Ubiquitous2024

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174 posts

3 months

Friday 20th September
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Just after an educated opinion, I think I know the answer.

I have an old LG combined DVD and Blu Ray player, which is hardly used now. However I have recently replaced some of my old music DVD box sets which have been remastered a few years ago, so the footage is better and the audio also. Looking at the footage of these concerts on YouTube it is actually pretty impressive the difference (if anyone is interested this is specific to Pink Floyds DSOT and Pulse but particularly the former which is 1987 footage).

I have also changed the DVD box sets I have for Blu Rays on the understanding these are superior - but are they?

I am wondering whether if I replace my ropey old LG player and spend a bit more on a decent Blue Ray player will it further enhance the viewing experience? Or is a blu ray a blu ray for the most part (like a CD player is also a CD player if you get my drift). I have an expensive sound system attached to my TV and that already sounds amazing with the LG but I am just wondering if I can improve it further.


Digger

15,179 posts

198 months

Friday 20th September
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Is it a 4K Blu-ray player?

If not, have any 4K discs?

Is your TV 4K?

Ubiquitous2024

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174 posts

3 months

Friday 20th September
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My current one is not no, around 12 - 14 years old I suspect.

My TV is... 4k I think - a 2 year old 55 inch Samsung.

The box sets are restored and re mastered, suspect not 4k although I don't know exactly how these things work!

mmm-five

11,437 posts

291 months

Friday 20th September
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Just pick up a 4K Bluray player, so it covers all eventualities.

Don't forget that 'old' DVDs could be as low as 576p (0.4 megapixels), compared to the 720p (0.9 megapixels) or 1080p (2.1 megapixels) for normal Bluray. 4K/UHD Bluray are 2160p (8.3 megapixel).

So along with higher colour depth, and better audio, you'll get 5 x(1080p) to 40x (4K) the pixels from a standard 576p DVD.

Your TV will likely already doing some upscaling, but I'm guessing AI-assisted upscaling used by the studio will offer a better experience.

Ubiquitous2024

Original Poster:

174 posts

3 months

Friday 20th September
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Cheers will report back on how it looks. Do you think it worthwhile updating my blu ray player?

Digger

15,179 posts

198 months

Friday 20th September
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If any of those mentioned box set Blu-rays that you own are 4k (check packaging) then yes I would update, especially if you intend to buy further Blu-rays, & certainly if you buy a larger TV in the future smile

mikef

5,244 posts

258 months

Friday 20th September
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If you have an XBox Series X and 4K TV, you can play 4k Blu-Ray disks

If not, the XBox may be a better investment than a 4K Blu-Ray player given what you can also play 4K games

RSTurboPaul

11,268 posts

265 months

Saturday 21st September
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mikef said:
If you have an XBox Series X and 4K TV, you can play 4k Blu-Ray disks

If not, the XBox may be a better investment than a 4K Blu-Ray player given what you can also play 4K games
I think the PS5 is also a 4K BD player.

Don't need to spend bonkers money on a 'good' bluray disk player, it is reading and sending 1s and 0s, not some esoteric analogue experience tongue out so just get something cheap but that looks decent build quality / UI experience / connectivity.

Tony1963

5,325 posts

169 months

Saturday 21st September
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RSTurboPaul said:
I think the PS5 is also a 4K BD player.

Don't need to spend bonkers money on a 'good' bluray disk player, it is reading and sending 1s and 0s, not some esoteric analogue experience tongue out so just get something cheap but that looks decent build quality / UI experience / connectivity.
Don’t they “send” an analogue signal?

Ubiquitous2024

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174 posts

3 months

Saturday 21st September
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Looking at the footage on the box sets I don't believe either are 4k. They are both remastered from film reel, one from 1987 and the other 1994.

The visual quality of the former is that of a good vhs and although sound is remastered there is limited depth clarity or dynamics.

RSTurboPaul

11,268 posts

265 months

Saturday 21st September
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Tony1963 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
I think the PS5 is also a 4K BD player.

Don't need to spend bonkers money on a 'good' bluray disk player, it is reading and sending 1s and 0s, not some esoteric analogue experience tongue out so just get something cheap but that looks decent build quality / UI experience / connectivity.
Don’t they “send” an analogue signal?
AIUI the data on the disks is digital, the box outputs digital, the HDMI cable carries digital, then conversion to audio and visual output is done at the TV end (or the audio is turned into analogue in the AVR between the box and the TV and sent as analogue to the speakers (unless one is running a Steinway Lyngdorf or similar that remains digital up to inbuilt amps in the speaker units)).

Ubiquitous2024

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174 posts

3 months

Saturday 28th September
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UPDATE

This has thrown a spanner in the works. DSOT was 1988 and the pre-cursor to Pulse. Pulse was 1994 and was... Pulse. I was only present at the latter. I have spent some time watching both the re-mastered box sets. There is a problem.

DSOT seems to be better in terms of audio and video but particularly the video. How can this be? I have included a link from both Blue Rays below on youtube. They are the same footage I have on my expensive box sets.

They both sound, for the age, pretty good in terms of audio, initially I thought DSOT would have no chance but actually, it rivals Pulse. This confuses me. Then I notice the footage for DSOT is different, it is clearer and less moving about. The show is darker and that may be one reason, but the main thing I realised is DSOT stretched the picture to fit my full TV screen - big difference. Pulse doesn't do that - it has the square only view with two black sides. I am not sure how I feel about this. Then, when you see the second link, it shows that - the footage just is not as pin sharp. So I am confused.

All in all both are great but the footage on DSOT seems to me superior. The audio I am undecided on.



DSOT 1988 :


Pulse 1994:

mmm-five

11,437 posts

291 months

Sunday 29th September
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The quality will depend on what sources were available to remaster, and how they were remastered (or how much effort went into them).

donkmeister

9,236 posts

107 months

Sunday 29th September
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Pulse - I remember my brother bought the CD which had a sleeve with a flashing red LED. Battery lasted a surprisingly long time.

Ubiquitous2024

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174 posts

3 months

Sunday 29th September
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The Box Set has the same, and it has a clever way of changing batteries so that it will last forever.