openreach fttp providers

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Trustmeimadoctor

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13,178 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Any recommendations for providers of fttp on openreach networks?

All deals seem to be city fiber and all those other networks.

Current provider want £45 for 500 and £55 for 900 and that feels a bit much

Don't need a router or phone

Vodafone always seem decent priced and most complaints are around their router that I won't use

Fiberly seem very well priced but seems to be a resold talk talk product and the last ISP they ran went under

Funk

26,498 posts

214 months

Tuesday 27th August
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CityFibre are to Openreach as Zen is to Vodafone - they only deal with the underlying infrastructure and sell the bandwidth to the ISPs. After a slightly rocky 'early adopter' phase with CityFibre a few years ago, they've been rock-solid for me for a couple of years now and I wouldn't write them off just for being 'not-Openreach'.

My connection is a 900/900 and I reliably get 900/800 for which I pay £30/mo through Zen. With either OR or CF et al, you'll get a fibre ONT which will then link to your router, however the reason the ISPs send out a router is because the login/connection details are pre-baked in for ease of deployment and subsequent management/troubleshooting. I didn't really want the Fritz!Box Zen sent but I just turned off the router's wifi and use my Asus mesh solution with any hardwired devices connected through gigabit switches back to the Zen router.

Trustmeimadoctor

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13,178 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Yes I know that, my issue is I can only have openreach as that's the only fiber here. Unfortunately openreach prices are far higher then city fiber et al

I won't use the supplied kit at all

So any suggestions for a good supplier

B9

519 posts

100 months

Tuesday 27th August
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If you’re only having quotes for city fibre then that suggest Openreach haven’t built FTTP in your area yet

Note that fibre can be FTTC (fibre to your local cabinet but not your home) or FTTP (fibre to your premises). Often confused as you might think you have fibre when I fact you don’t!

Ditto if you only get quotes for openreach and not city fibre

Both companies have a coverage checker on their website so worth checking that first

B9

519 posts

100 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Yes I know that, my issue is I can only have openreach as that's the only fiber here. Unfortunately openreach prices are far higher then city fiber et al

I won't use the supplied kit at all

So any suggestions for a good supplier
Ok that changes my interpretation of what you’ve asked

ISPreview is an honest source to compare providers. EE usually wins but it sounds like you want a budget price

Edited by B9 on Tuesday 27th August 12:53

Trustmeimadoctor

Original Poster:

13,178 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Your misunderstanding

I have open reach only available so I need someone who sells and open reach product

What I was saying was that all the deals(cheap prices) are for city fiber etc networks open reach seem to be £15-20 more fof the same download and are also usually asynchronous with a max 115mb upload

I can get 1600mb down but don't need it as the router will only do 1gbit IDS/IPS anyway and honestly I also have no need of that speed!

onomatopoeia

3,480 posts

222 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Yes I know that, my issue is I can only have openreach as that's the only fiber here. Unfortunately openreach prices are far higher then city fiber et al

I won't use the supplied kit at all

So any suggestions for a good supplier
Good = A&A. They aren't cheap though, so if you're a good == cheap person they won't be suitable.

Trustmeimadoctor

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160 months

Tuesday 27th August
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I'm with zen at the moment had thought about A&A bug hadn't checked for prices yet

Funk

26,498 posts

214 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Your misunderstanding

I have open reach only available so I need someone who sells and open reach product

What I was saying was that all the deals(cheap prices) are for city fiber etc networks open reach seem to be £15-20 more fof the same download and are also usually asynchronous with a max 115mb upload

I can get 1600mb down but don't need it as the router will only do 1gbit IDS/IPS anyway and honestly I also have no need of that speed!
This is why the newer devices (which you don't want) come with 2.5Gbit... whistle Just sayin'...

Also your original post didn't make it clear that OR were the only gig in town for you - seems you'll have to suck up the cost until there's some local competition.

Trustmeimadoctor

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13,178 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Dont wink just upgraded my usg and cloud key 2 plus to a cloud gateway ultra as i don't need any of the other unifi applications to need the max

It has a 2.5g wan port but only 1gig backplane and 1gig IDS/IPS

Mr Pointy

11,674 posts

164 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
I'm with zen at the moment had thought about A&A bug hadn't checked for prices yet
Don't Zen offer Openreach as well as City Fibre?

Trustmeimadoctor

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13,178 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th August
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they do but £45 for 500 is imho too much

bennno

12,468 posts

274 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Easynet are a BT owned company, comparable services for 40% less....

sjg

7,518 posts

270 months

Tuesday 27th August
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I'm happy with £45 for Zen 500/70 and they were great at dealing with Openreach and keeping me updated when the FTTP line was first being installed. No NAT, static IPv4 and reverse DNS, and good IPv6 support.

Was with Vodafone before that on VDSL and once I'd got my credentials to put into my own router they were fine. Never had a reason to use their support other than that though.

Robbidoo

250 posts

172 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Another happy zen over openreach customer

Trustmeimadoctor

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13,178 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th August
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bennno said:
Easynet are a BT owned company, comparable services for 40% less....
Easynet closed in 2015, sure you do t mean Plusnet?

bennno

12,468 posts

274 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
bennno said:
Easynet are a BT owned company, comparable services for 40% less....
Easynet closed in 2015, sure you do t mean Plusnet?
Sorry yes Plusnet - you get a different coloured BT home hub but the service is indistinguishable

Trustmeimadoctor

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13,178 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Robbidoo said:
Another happy zen over openreach customer
Grumble
Honestly I can cope just fine with 80/20 VDSL but the 130GB call of duty the other night pissed me off

Shaoxter

4,175 posts

129 months

Tuesday 27th August
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I'm currently with Vodafone - 900Mbps for £36/month (works out less after cashbacks), no complaints other than the stock router which is indeed crap. Was with Sky before and they were also fine, tbh I think the Openreach FTTP providers will all be the same.

snuffy

10,291 posts

289 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Funk said:
My connection is a 900/900 and I reliably get 900/800 for which I pay £30/mo through Zen. With either OR or CF et al, you'll get a fibre ONT which will then link to your router, however the reason the ISPs send out a router is because the login/connection details are pre-baked in for ease of deployment and subsequent management/troubleshooting. I didn't really want the Fritz!Box Zen sent but I just turned off the router's wifi and use my Asus mesh solution with any hardwired devices connected through gigabit switches back to the Zen router.
That's cheap. I'm with Zen, 900/100 and it's £55/month (was £60). Plus the faster I can see on their site is 900/100.

And I see they are also on about 2G now.