HP printer - prematurely reporting low toner

HP printer - prematurely reporting low toner

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TUS373

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4,739 posts

286 months

Tuesday 27th August
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I have probably been suckered up by Hewlett Packard in this one.

Got a colour laser printer MFP M477. It takes 3 toner cartridges, 1 black, then the three colour ones.

I try to preserve the colour toner cartridges and print in black most of the time. However, my strategy seems to be undermined by HP, who must monitor toner use by pages total pages printed, so I assume it can clock up a high number of pages, but hardly any colour toner has been used. The printer then throws up messages every time it is turned on to say that magenta is low, cyan is low, when I know that they cannot be. I have to stand over the printer and clear these warning messages at every switch.

Am I getting this right. Is there a cartridge reset tool that I can reset the page count on a toner cartridge back to zero and carry on using it? Otherwise, printer in black/grey is a waste of time.

Thanks

Trustmeimadoctor

13,178 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Welcome to hp wink

TUS373

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4,739 posts

286 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Indeed.

Well, I have been on to HP customer support who were very good. They told me that the toner cartridges have sensors in them to monitor levels. Also told me that colour gets used even when printing black, to make the black up. Hmmm.... well, there may be some truth in that, but sort of defeats selecting the option 'select to print in black to save toner'!

Indeed, welcome to the realm of a very rich company and expensive toner.

Sheepshanks

34,342 posts

124 months

Tuesday 27th August
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TUS373 said:
Got a colour laser printer MFP M477. It takes 3 toner cartridges, 1 black, then the three colour ones.
Isn't that 4 toner cartridges? rotate

I think I've got the same model - mine is 479 - it also throws up the warning but I can't say it's a massive deal to just cancel the warning. The colour carts have been saying they were low for at least a year. I bought one colour that was lower then the others but have never fitted it,

About a year ago Ibought a whole new printer as the 479 is a little big and I want to put it somewhere else, and I saw a 283 on a special offer and with cash rebate, and at £200 it was less than a set of carts (even the smaller ones). I planned to swap them over when the 479 stopped printing but it's still going, although we don't print much now.

TUS373

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4,739 posts

286 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Yes - my typo there. It is 4 cartridges - 1 black, then 3 colour.

We use the scanner quite a lot. Main thing is my wife, who sometimes works from home. She complains that 'nothing works in this house' and I am the IT department responsible for the marital service of supplying all lap tops, internet, peripherals, and making sure that they work whenever she is using stuff.

Anything with an error message and a wobble is thrown. Usually by wife, not the laptop.

mac96

4,268 posts

148 months

Tuesday 27th August
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TUS373 said:
Yes - my typo there. It is 4 cartridges - 1 black, then 3 colour.

We use the scanner quite a lot. Main thing is my wife, who sometimes works from home. She complains that 'nothing works in this house' and I am the IT department responsible for the marital service of supplying all lap tops, internet, peripherals, and making sure that they work whenever she is using stuff.

Anything with an error message and a wobble is thrown. Usually by wife, not the laptop.
They all do that sir!

thebraketester

14,608 posts

143 months

Tuesday 27th August
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HP. Put it in the bin….

Friends don’t let friends buy HP printers.

TUS373

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4,739 posts

286 months

Tuesday 27th August
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It is the first colour laser we have had following a Samsung (good) and Kyocera (also very good). It is an all in one, has worked flawlessly with respect to print and scan quality....but absolutely eats expensive toner!

Not quite ready to bin it off just yet, but I am open minded if there are more cost effective solutions out there. A full tray of toner is about £400!

Sheepshanks

34,342 posts

124 months

Tuesday 27th August
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TUS373 said:
It is the first colour laser we have had following a Samsung (good) and Kyocera (also very good). It is an all in one, has worked flawlessly with respect to print and scan quality....but absolutely eats expensive toner!

Not quite ready to bin it off just yet, but I am open minded if there are more cost effective solutions out there. A full tray of toner is about £400!
I find the scanning to be not very good - I read something about HP limiting the resolution so that scanning could work with the document feeder.

In all other respects it's pretty good - and certainly a revelation after colour inkjets.

Mind you, I've never had to pay for anything up to now but I've just retired. I don't think I'll be paying £400 for a set of carts!

h0b0

8,020 posts

201 months

Tuesday 27th August
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TUS373 said:
It is the first colour laser we have had following a Samsung (good) and Kyocera (also very good). It is an all in one, has worked flawlessly with respect to print and scan quality....but absolutely eats expensive toner!

Not quite ready to bin it off just yet, but I am open minded if there are more cost effective solutions out there. A full tray of toner is about £400!
It lying to you. I’ve had a color laser printer from HP for years. Once we got over the lying issue, it has worked great. The only indication a toner cartridge is low is when your print looks funny. I’ve run hundreds of prints through after the first warning.

I now just punish it by using cheap cartridges off Amazon that it can’t read. It throws up error messages like

“Unsupported cartridge may invalidate warranty”

And

“I’m going to murder your first born”.

We just ignore it with the occasional
“I’m in Charge, not you!!” Shout at it.

It still gets revenge by making it near impossible to cancel a print job though.

TUS373

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4,739 posts

286 months

Tuesday 27th August
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That all sounds so familiar.

I goaded it by buying a replacement non-HP magenta cartridge, just in case.

Printers response: "cyan is very low".

Harrumph.

James6112

5,162 posts

33 months

Wednesday 28th August
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thebraketester said:
HP. Put it in the bin….

Friends don’t let friends buy HP printers.
No offence, but you’re talking bks wink

My HP envy 6000, 4 years old

Never missed a beat

Cheap Ink Subscription

Runs out, sent cartridges in advance

No need to buy cheap inferior/rubbish copies

Digger

15,102 posts

196 months

Wednesday 28th August
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Surprised that no-one has mentioned the B word yet. . .

Which I always thought was the de facto reply wink