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hstewie said:colin79666 said:
Investors not impressed by the AI stuff. Pretty clear when they started talking about Apple Intelligence…
Strange really as you’d think the talk about security would be something that investors would like! I have a little bit invested in them and nvidia so it’s interesting to see how it goes Having finally watched the whole thing, the functionality is really incremental and while useful doesn’t really deserve to be show-cased in this way.
Apple Intelligence is interesting and it does manage to hit the niche that others like ChatGPT can’t get to — which is access to all your information and as they say give some context relevant suggestions / information. And if that’s not enough does provide an interface to ChatGPT.
Apple Intelligence is interesting and it does manage to hit the niche that others like ChatGPT can’t get to — which is access to all your information and as they say give some context relevant suggestions / information. And if that’s not enough does provide an interface to ChatGPT.
The AI stuff is interesting, and it's good that they've taken a different approach to everyone else and made it more about 'you', with a focus on being private.
As for the rest of the stuff. Meh.
You can access your phone from your Mac, and you can connect to other peoples iPads to help them out, but my god why won't they give us proper control of our Macs from our iPad? I know there's already screen sharing built into Mac, but compares the RD on Windows, it's really really poor. I can connect to a windows machine and use it like I'm there. With Mac, it doesn't resize your screen to match the remote.
The handwriting stuff looks pretty cool, and should be good for those that write on their iPads.
The calculator stuff looks nifty as well.
As for the rest of the stuff. Meh.
You can access your phone from your Mac, and you can connect to other peoples iPads to help them out, but my god why won't they give us proper control of our Macs from our iPad? I know there's already screen sharing built into Mac, but compares the RD on Windows, it's really really poor. I can connect to a windows machine and use it like I'm there. With Mac, it doesn't resize your screen to match the remote.
The handwriting stuff looks pretty cool, and should be good for those that write on their iPads.
The calculator stuff looks nifty as well.
Why haven’t Apple developed their own AI, exclusively for iOS?
I know they went to great lengths yesterday to talk about Apple privacy and whatnot, but I can’t get away from OpenAI is third party and data will have to be sent to them to process. What happens after that? How will data be used / stored etc…
I would feel more comfortable if they had their own in house AI…
I know they went to great lengths yesterday to talk about Apple privacy and whatnot, but I can’t get away from OpenAI is third party and data will have to be sent to them to process. What happens after that? How will data be used / stored etc…
I would feel more comfortable if they had their own in house AI…
extraT said:
Why haven’t Apple developed their own AI, exclusively for iOS?
I know they went to great lengths yesterday to talk about Apple privacy and whatnot, but I can’t get away from OpenAI is third party and data will have to be sent to them to process. What happens after that? How will data be used / stored etc…
I would feel more comfortable if they had their own in house AI…
One would imagine they are working on it. If they thought it was close to being ready, they would certainly have announced it, or teased it for the future. I know they went to great lengths yesterday to talk about Apple privacy and whatnot, but I can’t get away from OpenAI is third party and data will have to be sent to them to process. What happens after that? How will data be used / stored etc…
I would feel more comfortable if they had their own in house AI…
If it's not going to be ready for a year or 2, then it makes sense to integrate OpenAI. The user experience of Siri now feels like very old tech.
I think they have done their own AI,
The ChatGPT integration seems to be a handoff when the going is too tough, not the default throughout.
That's why it runs some of the smaller models on the phone itself, not all in the cloud. And then for heavier lifting they hand off to their cloud first.
If you watch the demo's, it'll ask if it thinks ChatGPT can give you a better answer, and ask to share the info each time.
So yes, they have developed their own, but they've also integrated with the current market leader. Best of both worlds really.
The ChatGPT integration seems to be a handoff when the going is too tough, not the default throughout.
That's why it runs some of the smaller models on the phone itself, not all in the cloud. And then for heavier lifting they hand off to their cloud first.
If you watch the demo's, it'll ask if it thinks ChatGPT can give you a better answer, and ask to share the info each time.
So yes, they have developed their own, but they've also integrated with the current market leader. Best of both worlds really.
phil4 said:
I think they have done their own AI,
The ChatGPT integration seems to be a handoff when the going is too tough, not the default throughout.
That's why it runs some of the smaller models on the phone itself, not all in the cloud. And then for heavier lifting they hand off to their cloud first.
If you watch the demo's, it'll ask if it thinks ChatGPT can give you a better answer, and ask to share the info each time.
So yes, they have developed their own, but they've also integrated with the current market leader. Best of both worlds really.
This.The ChatGPT integration seems to be a handoff when the going is too tough, not the default throughout.
That's why it runs some of the smaller models on the phone itself, not all in the cloud. And then for heavier lifting they hand off to their cloud first.
If you watch the demo's, it'll ask if it thinks ChatGPT can give you a better answer, and ask to share the info each time.
So yes, they have developed their own, but they've also integrated with the current market leader. Best of both worlds really.
Yeh they have, they've even release an open source LLM fairly recently, so they're clearly doing something in-house.
I would guess that Apple have no interest in the general 'knowledge' type AI, but rather, they're focusing on 'on-device' stuff that will genuinely help you day to day.
I know Apple isn't short of a bob or two, but the training costs for something like ChatGPT are HUGE! I read somewhere recently that we're approaching LLM's that cost $1 billion to train.
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