TV/Radio reception interference.

TV/Radio reception interference.

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RSstuff

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459 posts

22 months

Friday 3rd May
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My neighbour runs a software business, apparently with 1000Mbps fibre connected to his property. Via 2 communication cables that pass over my drive to a telegraph pole. When I drive under these cables, I lose the radio reception in my cars, and at night we have interference on our upstairs TV. Could this be related to the neighbour downloading or uploading data to their customers?

tribbles

4,022 posts

229 months

Friday 3rd May
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RSstuff said:
My neighbour runs a software business, apparently with 1000Mbps fibre connected to his property. Via 2 communication cables that pass over my drive to a telegraph pole. When I drive under these cables, I lose the radio reception in my cars, and at night we have interference on our upstairs TV. Could this be related to the neighbour downloading or uploading data to their customers?
Are you driving under the fibre? Or is it copper and the fibre terminates elsewhere?

RSstuff

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459 posts

22 months

Friday 3rd May
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Sorry I'm not sure how it works. There's a pole centrally located in front of my house, and what looks like 2 overhead phone lines passing diagonally over my drive to my neighbours house.

tribbles

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229 months

Friday 3rd May
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Okay, that makes it a bit harder.

If he's got speed of 1000mps, then it's almost certainly fibre to the premises (FTTP). This means that the fibre will be going directly to the building, and then it'll be converted into a copper signal.

If the poles are just serving the internet, then I do not see any method that they would be interfering with your radio or TV. Fibre is basically light, and (although they are both on the EM spectrum) should have no ability to interfere with the signals.

However, if the poles are doing other things (such as power or other telephony over copper), then those could interfere.

It is probably more likely though that it's something else, and things like motors or generators would be the first things I'd look at, but anything electrical can in theory generate RF which would interfere.

From memory, Ofcom are the people to ask if you suspect inteference.

RSstuff

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459 posts

22 months

Friday 3rd May
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Thanks for the replies. There are power lines also attached to the pole, that connect to ours and both our neighbours houses. However an engineer from the power company came out, and his equipment couldn't detect any leakage from the power lines, at the pole or inside our house. Trying to get hold of the phone line operators seems to go around in circles.

Sebring440

2,316 posts

103 months

Friday 3rd May
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RSstuff said:
My neighbour runs a software business, apparently with 1000Mbps fibre connected to his property. Via 2 communication cables that pass over my drive to a telegraph pole. When I drive under these cables, I lose the radio reception in my cars, and at night we have interference on our upstairs TV. Could this be related to the neighbour downloading or uploading data to their customers?
What is it you would like to be the outcome of this?


RSstuff

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459 posts

22 months

Friday 3rd May
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Sebring440 said:
What is it you would like to be the outcome of this?


Whenever the neighbour is away from home overnight, there is no interference with the TV reception upstairs. I don't think this is a coincidence. I'd like some more info before making a complaint to the phone line or broadband provider.

Ham_and_Jam

2,567 posts

104 months

Saturday 4th May
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RSstuff said:


Whenever the neighbour is away from home overnight, there is no interference with the TV reception upstairs. I don't think this is a coincidence. I'd like some more info before making a complaint to the phone line or broadband provider.
There’s a high probability that his broadband is still passing data when he isn’t there, so unlikely that is the correlation.

RSstuff

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Saturday 4th May
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Ham_and_Jam said:
There’s a high probability that his broadband is still passing data when he isn’t there, so unlikely that is the correlation.
He's been away for a few days several times, over the last 3 years and the upstairs TV has had no interference each time. What else could the problem be?

OutInTheShed

9,368 posts

33 months

Saturday 4th May
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Interference is a game of two ends.

If your TV is suffering, it could be your TV or aerial which is not meeting standards.
Are you watching broadcast TV or internet?

If your car radio breaks up, it could be the signal is very weak and a small, permitted, level of RF emissions tips it over the edge.

The fibre itself won't radiate, but the data traffic may be associated with a lot of WiFi activity.
If the fibre itself is supported by a steel wire, something could be injecting a signal onto the wire.
There could be other transmitters in use.
Power supplies etc could be dumping a lot of interference on the mains.

He could be jamming your radio and TV because you're annoying him....

FMOB

1,994 posts

19 months

Saturday 4th May
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OutInTheShed said:
Interference is a game of two ends.

If your TV is suffering, it could be your TV or aerial which is not meeting standards.
Are you watching broadcast TV or internet?

If your car radio breaks up, it could be the signal is very weak and a small, permitted, level of RF emissions tips it over the edge.

The fibre itself won't radiate, but the data traffic may be associated with a lot of WiFi activity.
If the fibre itself is supported by a steel wire, something could be injecting a signal onto the wire.
There could be other transmitters in use.
Power supplies etc could be dumping a lot of interference on the mains.

He could be jamming your radio and TV because you're annoying him....
Dealing with interference can be a real challenge so I would start a diary covering when it started, times of interference, what is interfered with, etc. It is interesting when the neighbour is away the problem is away.

The car radio interference, is this AM, FM or DAB? Does it happen at all times of the day or a specific time?

Similar for the TV, does it only affect the upstairs telly but the downstairs one is fine or are both interfered with at the same time? Is the interference on a particular channel or only only when using Freeview.

Are other neighbours experiencing problems? If you are on good terms with them have a chat with them as they can help resolve the problem by turning this off to help identify the culprit.

Could be something like this but shows how difficult this could be to resolve.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54239180#:~:text...

FMOB

1,994 posts

19 months

Saturday 4th May
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tribbles said:
From memory, Ofcom are the people to ask if you suspect inteference.
Good luck with OFCOM, they basically got rid of anyone who could deal with interference matters when they shut the Whyteleaf site down and sold off all the kit, more interested in dodgy TV adverts than anything else these days.

indigochim

1,668 posts

137 months

Saturday 4th May
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[quote=If your car radio breaks up, it could be the signal is very weak and a small, permitted, level of RF emissions tips it over the edge.
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I had a car with a bad earth on the rear lights. Whenever I pressed the brakes the radio (FM back then) would break up it could be something similar.

RSstuff

Original Poster:

459 posts

22 months

Monday 3rd June
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The neighbour has their house up for sale, so hopefully the issue could go away.

cobra kid

5,243 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th June
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RSstuff said:
The neighbour has their house up for sale, so hopefully the issue could go away.
Only if the new occupants never use any data!

RSstuff

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459 posts

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Wednesday 5th June
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cobra kid said:
RSstuff said:
The neighbour has their house up for sale, so hopefully the issue could go away.
Only if the new occupants never use any data!
Depends if they're running a busy software business from home I expect.

dxg

8,781 posts

267 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Go order some ferrite cores off amazon.

Put them on the aerial leads of the affected devices.

Sleep easy.

Ham_and_Jam

2,567 posts

104 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Most older TV aerials can suffer from interference from new 5G masts.

Many new TV aerials tend to have filters to remove it. Might be a reason OP.

Edited by Ham_and_Jam on Wednesday 5th June 16:33

RSstuff

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Wednesday 5th June
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Ham_and_Jam said:
Most older TV aerials can suffer from interference from new 5G masts.

Many new TV aerials tend to have filters to remove it. Might be a reason OP.
No issue with the TV connected to the aerial in the loft, that's at least 15 years old. Same with the TV connected to a internet box. The TV in the bedroom that's connected to small a set top aerial works fine most of the time, until most of the channels suddenly drop out, but only at night.

Ham_and_Jam

2,567 posts

104 months

Wednesday 5th June
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RSstuff said:
No issue with the TV connected to the aerial in the loft, that's at least 15 years old. Same with the TV connected to a internet box. The TV in the bedroom that's connected to small a set top aerial works fine most of the time, until most of the channels suddenly drop out, but only at night.
Set top aerials are very poor for reception. They will work with a decent signal, but fail at the first chance of a weaker signal.

Don’t you have a proper full size / band width and shielded roof aerial?