2G Sim?

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BikeBikeBIke

Original Poster:

10,166 posts

122 months

Wednesday 24th April
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I've bought a basic mobile phone for emergency use and to lend to a child.

Turns out it's 2G only.

What PAYG sim should I get, will sims that claim to support 2,3,4,5 G really work?

Is there a network thst has full coverage or are transmitters being turned off?

I need good coverage, is that still available?


Evanivitch

22,075 posts

129 months

Wednesday 24th April
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A 2G phone won't work on 3G networks. And 3G will be switched off soon too.

If it's just the Sim (not sure why you'd buy such a phone with a sim?), any modern sim will work provided it's the right physical Size.

Defcon5

6,304 posts

198 months

Wednesday 24th April
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An O2/Voda/EE or any of their MVNOs will be fine.

H3G or any MVNO that uses its infrastructure won’t work at all.

What is the phone, a Nokia 105? Get a Lycamobile SIM for a drug dealer vibe

alangla

5,200 posts

188 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Don’t buy anything that’s 3 underneath. Sims on Vodafone, O2 or EE should work. Asda is worth a look, especially if it’s for light use, they’re Vodafone underneath.

FMOB

1,994 posts

19 months

Wednesday 24th April
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alangla said:
Don’t buy anything that’s 3 underneath. Sims on Vodafone, O2 or EE should work. Asda is worth a look, especially if it’s for light use, they’re Vodafone underneath.
Indeed, 2g spectrum (900/1800MHz) was all sold off before 3 arrived as an operator.

UK operators have shut down their 3g networks and the 2g networks will be shut down sometime before 2033.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-inter...

OutInTheShed

9,377 posts

33 months

Wednesday 24th April
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2033 is a long way ahead.
2G is still a strong backbone for voice and texts. It works in the boondocks.

If you want internet, then you need 4G pretty much.

Evanivitch

22,075 posts

129 months

Wednesday 24th April
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OutInTheShed said:
2033 is a long way ahead.
2G is still a strong backbone for voice and texts. It works in the boondocks.

If you want internet, then you need 4G pretty much.
2033 is a hard stop, it's entirely possible 2G will be switched off where 4G and 5G coverage is acceptable, meaning you may have a better 2G signal in rural areas than you do in urban areas!

I'd expect a phone for kids would have some data capability. Sending location, even using apps with stronger parental controls.

eliot

11,727 posts

261 months

Wednesday 24th April
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I use a giffgaff sim in my 2g sms modem.

babelfish

966 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th April
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or https://www.1pmobile.com/ uses EE network

BikeBikeBIke

Original Poster:

10,166 posts

122 months

Thursday 25th April
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Thanks all, that's massively helpful.

camel_landy

5,085 posts

190 months

Thursday 25th April
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2G will be around for a while and longer than 3G, as 2G is used for a number of public services eg Smart Meters but as you can imagine, the investment is going to be in the more modern technologies.

Generally it's the phone which is the main limiting factor, rather than the sim. If you stick to one of the older network operators, you'll probably be fine (O2 & Voda). EE (formerly T-Mobile & Orange) shut down and reused a lot of their 2G frequency ranges when they rolled out 4G (that's how they got ahead of the game).

FWIW - The 'G' part is just a marketing term to simplify things... "Generation"... Without that, you'd be entering a world of pain, trying to understand the different technologies involved (UMTS, LTE, EDGE, HSDPA, etc...).

M

Edited by camel_landy on Thursday 25th April 10:11

camel_landy

5,085 posts

190 months

Thursday 25th April
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Evanivitch said:
I'd expect a phone for kids would have some data capability. Sending location, even using apps with stronger parental controls.
Careful with making those assumptions again...

There's a difference between a phone "designed" for kids vs a basic phone you're going to let a kid use. I suspect we're talking about the latter but I'm not going to make any assumptions.

M

FMOB

1,994 posts

19 months

Thursday 25th April
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camel_landy said:
2G will be around for a while and longer than 3G, as 2G is used for a number of public services eg Smart Meters but as you can imagine, the investment is going to be in the more modern technologies.

Generally it's the phone which is the main limiting factor, rather than the sim. If you stick to one of the older network operators, you'll probably be fine (O2 & Voda). EE (formerly T-Mobile & Orange) shut down and reused a lot of their 2G frequency ranges when they rolled out 4G (that's how they got ahead of the game).

FWIW - The 'G' part is just a marketing term to simplify things... "Generation"... Without that, you'd be entering a world of pain, trying to understand the different technologies involved (UMTS, LTE, EDGE, HSDPA, etc...).

M

Edited by camel_landy on Thursday 25th April 10:11
Don't forget LTE-Advanced, 5G-SA and 5G-NSA.

Otherwise known as Death by Acronym..

smack

9,746 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th April
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FMOB said:
UK operators have shut down their 3g networks and the 2g networks will be shut down sometime before 2033.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-inter...
Not true o2 are still running their 3g network, at the moment it is scheduled to be turned off next year.

The turn off of 3g has been causing problems for calls in rural areas for phone calls, where the 4g signal isn't strong enough for an incoming phone call, some phones can't drop down to 2g fast enough, and the call doesn't connect/goes to voice mail.

Tony1963

5,331 posts

169 months

Saturday 18th May
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Fingers are crossed that I’ve sorted this.

I remembered I was running Beta software, so wondered whether that was causing the issue.
Turned off Beta, and waited til a non-Beta software update came up. Downloading that automatically clears the Beta software, and yippee, the issue has disappeared!

No more unpaid Beta testing for me.