Wifi in my outbuilding/office - how?
Discussion
Hello all,
First off I don't know much about networking. I have 2 BT Smart Hubs, one is spare and the other is in the house connected to the broadband source and provides wifi and an ethernet connection to the TV. It also provides an external ethernet "RJ45" cable to my outhouse and that gives my computer internet.
This is all working nicely but I would like to have a separate wifi network in my outhouse for alexa, my mobile (poor signal area) and maintain the hard wired ethernet connection for my computer (and also a smart TV in the future).
I had thought i could simply set up the spare BT Smart Hub i have in my office but sadly the "broadband in" grey connection is not RJ45 and is something similar in shape but with 4 pins instead of 8 in my RJ45 cable. The yellow connectors are RJ45 outputs.
Pic of router:
How do I achieve wifi in the outbuilding please? I have tried wifi extenders that you plug in to sockets but the signal is too weak from the house wifi.
Cheers
First off I don't know much about networking. I have 2 BT Smart Hubs, one is spare and the other is in the house connected to the broadband source and provides wifi and an ethernet connection to the TV. It also provides an external ethernet "RJ45" cable to my outhouse and that gives my computer internet.
This is all working nicely but I would like to have a separate wifi network in my outhouse for alexa, my mobile (poor signal area) and maintain the hard wired ethernet connection for my computer (and also a smart TV in the future).
I had thought i could simply set up the spare BT Smart Hub i have in my office but sadly the "broadband in" grey connection is not RJ45 and is something similar in shape but with 4 pins instead of 8 in my RJ45 cable. The yellow connectors are RJ45 outputs.
Pic of router:
How do I achieve wifi in the outbuilding please? I have tried wifi extenders that you plug in to sockets but the signal is too weak from the house wifi.
Cheers
Just used this to get wifi to my garage. Set up in under 5 mins and works perfectly:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01LXOZ4EN?psc=1&r...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01LXOZ4EN?psc=1&r...
As an addition the above, it's pricier but I'm very happy with these. They were recommended on here and work perfectly around the house.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Deco-P9-Powerline-coverag...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Deco-P9-Powerline-coverag...
Have a look at something like this - in Access Point mode it gives to four RJ45 ports & wireless. The existing cable would plug into the blue WAN port:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Dual-Band-Advance...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Dual-Band-Advance...
Couple of easy ways with what you have:
On that extra hub, login and disable the DHCP range, then connect the RJ45 cable from the house into 1, 2 or 3, along with your shed pc into one of those.
The wireless that is configured on that hub will then be available in the shed, and anything connecting to that hub (wired or wireless) will get an IP from your house hub.
Or, plug the RJ45 from house into the WAN port on that router, and everything on wifi or wired in the shed will then be on a separate sub-network running from that spare hub.
The first option is best if you have devices in house and shed that need to talk to each other on the network. (You could modify the dhcp range on both routers not to overlap, but that is getting more technical.)
The second option means less initial setup, but more work if you need things to talk to each other between house and shed, and also assumes that the port labelled as WAN is actually default configured to work as described.
On that extra hub, login and disable the DHCP range, then connect the RJ45 cable from the house into 1, 2 or 3, along with your shed pc into one of those.
The wireless that is configured on that hub will then be available in the shed, and anything connecting to that hub (wired or wireless) will get an IP from your house hub.
Or, plug the RJ45 from house into the WAN port on that router, and everything on wifi or wired in the shed will then be on a separate sub-network running from that spare hub.
The first option is best if you have devices in house and shed that need to talk to each other on the network. (You could modify the dhcp range on both routers not to overlap, but that is getting more technical.)
The second option means less initial setup, but more work if you need things to talk to each other between house and shed, and also assumes that the port labelled as WAN is actually default configured to work as described.
Edited by cpszx on Tuesday 9th January 16:02
What does the ethernet cable from the router in the house connect to in the Outbuilding?
Hopefully it will be nicely terminated with an RJ45 socket, but even if it's not ... no matter.
Firstly, since you have a hard wired connection to the outbuilding, ignore the comments regarding Powerline etc. I have no issue with them, and use them myself, but they're simply superfluous and out performed by a proper ethernet cable (which it seems you have).
As linked to by Mr Pointy, the TP Link Archer C64 setup in Access Point mode will do the job and for £35 it's a no-brainer.
Very easy to set it up with it's own wi-fi network if you want to keep it separate from the house.
Manual here, if you want to see how simply it will be:
https://www.tp-link.com/uk/support/download/archer...
Hopefully it will be nicely terminated with an RJ45 socket, but even if it's not ... no matter.
Firstly, since you have a hard wired connection to the outbuilding, ignore the comments regarding Powerline etc. I have no issue with them, and use them myself, but they're simply superfluous and out performed by a proper ethernet cable (which it seems you have).
As linked to by Mr Pointy, the TP Link Archer C64 setup in Access Point mode will do the job and for £35 it's a no-brainer.
Very easy to set it up with it's own wi-fi network if you want to keep it separate from the house.
Manual here, if you want to see how simply it will be:
https://www.tp-link.com/uk/support/download/archer...
cpszx said:
Couple of easy ways with what you have:
On that extra hub, login and disable the DHCP range, then connect the RJ45 cable from the house into 1, 2 or 3, along with your shed pc into one of those.
The wireless that is configured on that hub will then be available in the shed, and anything connecting to that hub (wired or wireless) will get an IP from your house hub.
Or, plug the RJ45 from house into the WAN port on that router, and everything on wifi or wired in the shed will then be on a separate sub-network running from that spare hub.
The first option is best if you have devices in house and shed that need to talk to each other on the network. (You could modify the dhcp range on both routers not to overlap, but that is getting more technical.)
The second option means less initial setup, but more work if you need things to talk to each other between house and shed, and also assumes that the port labelled as WAN is actually default configured to work as described.
Cheers all, I will try the above first as that works with what I have, if not I'll get that £35 jobby On that extra hub, login and disable the DHCP range, then connect the RJ45 cable from the house into 1, 2 or 3, along with your shed pc into one of those.
The wireless that is configured on that hub will then be available in the shed, and anything connecting to that hub (wired or wireless) will get an IP from your house hub.
Or, plug the RJ45 from house into the WAN port on that router, and everything on wifi or wired in the shed will then be on a separate sub-network running from that spare hub.
The first option is best if you have devices in house and shed that need to talk to each other on the network. (You could modify the dhcp range on both routers not to overlap, but that is getting more technical.)
The second option means less initial setup, but more work if you need things to talk to each other between house and shed, and also assumes that the port labelled as WAN is actually default configured to work as described.
Edited by cpszx on Tuesday 9th January 16:02
cpszx said:
Couple of easy ways with what you have:
On that extra hub, login and disable the DHCP range, then connect the RJ45 cable from the house into 1, 2 or 3, along with your shed pc into one of those.
The wireless that is configured on that hub will then be available in the shed, and anything connecting to that hub (wired or wireless) will get an IP from your house hub.
Or, plug the RJ45 from house into the WAN port on that router, and everything on wifi or wired in the shed will then be on a separate sub-network running from that spare hub.
The first option is best if you have devices in house and shed that need to talk to each other on the network. (You could modify the dhcp range on both routers not to overlap, but that is getting more technical.)
The second option means less initial setup, but more work if you need things to talk to each other between house and shed, and also assumes that the port labelled as WAN is actually default configured to work as described.
Exactly what I did (following guidance on here, though just to the far end of my house). Works an absolute treat.On that extra hub, login and disable the DHCP range, then connect the RJ45 cable from the house into 1, 2 or 3, along with your shed pc into one of those.
The wireless that is configured on that hub will then be available in the shed, and anything connecting to that hub (wired or wireless) will get an IP from your house hub.
Or, plug the RJ45 from house into the WAN port on that router, and everything on wifi or wired in the shed will then be on a separate sub-network running from that spare hub.
The first option is best if you have devices in house and shed that need to talk to each other on the network. (You could modify the dhcp range on both routers not to overlap, but that is getting more technical.)
The second option means less initial setup, but more work if you need things to talk to each other between house and shed, and also assumes that the port labelled as WAN is actually default configured to work as described.
Edited by cpszx on Tuesday 9th January 16:02
VeeReihenmotor6 said:
Cheers all, I will try the above first as that works with what I have, if not I'll get that £35 jobby
This will do exactly the same as the £35 jobby is going to do, without spending the £35 
And you will have port 3 spare for your smart tv when you get it.
I do this with some of the older routers i have and put them into the kids bedrooms, to get multiple wired connections for consoles, laptops, tv etc and their own local wifi, to keep the main house wifi a bit cleaner.
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