Which laptop for A Level study?

Which laptop for A Level study?

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The Gauge

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2,759 posts

19 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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Not sure if it needs to be of a certain spec, but I'm wanting to get a laptop for my son who has just started his A levels please, and he may then be going to university. He'll be taking it to school with him.

One of his subjects is Computer Science so he will be using it for programming. I guess decent storage space would be useful. If the choice was left to him he'd be trying to pull the wool over my eyes to get a high spec gaming laptop, but he already has a gaming PC.

No particular budget but don't want it to cost the earth. So are there any features/specs that I should consider or should any modern laptop be suitable?


Zad

12,748 posts

242 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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For college and uni, I would consider a refurbished PC from one of the big refurbishers. They are often business machines, and a bit more robust than the usual consumer machines. Having said that, I imagine anything made this century would be fine for note taking, coursework, programming. The only absolute requirement for me would be that it absolutely must have an SSD not a mechanical hard drive, and must be 1920x1080 full HD, and not less than 8GB memory.

Nice to have: 16GB memory, 1TB SSD, 15 inch (not too big to lug around, big enough for decent work). Processor type isn't crucial. This one happens to be an i7, but i5 or AMD would be fine for that job.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325650551298

£300 would get you an 8th Gen i5, 16GB 1TB. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374855937212
Even an 8GB 256GB wouldn't be terrible. SSD can always be expanded later.

It would leave some cash over for a 10 inch Android tablet + SD card to read course book PDFs. Much easier to read on a tablet (when you are on the bus, train, etc) than a laptop or a phone.

xeny

4,587 posts

84 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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The Gauge said:
If the choice was left to him he'd be trying to pull the wool over my eyes to get a high spec gaming laptop, but he already has a gaming PC.
Of course if he ends up doing much with AI/Machine Learning, that would be an appropriate choice....

Why not ask the computer science course's teacher?

thebraketester

14,620 posts

144 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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13" M2 MacBook Air will probably see him through a levels and uni. (Add a external screen when/if needed)

devnull

3,787 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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thebraketester said:
13" M2 MacBook Air will probably see him through a levels and uni. (Add a external screen when/if needed)
Absolutely this if he’s fine using a Mac.

Refurbished thinkpad or a MS surface if he needs windows.

the-photographer

3,810 posts

182 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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Something for the long term, Macbook Air 13" or any used USB-C Dell or Lenovo e.g. 7400, x390, T14 etc and also get a USB-PD monitor again, Dell is an easy choice. USB docking with the monitor is very convenient and saves a power socket

the-norseman

13,192 posts

177 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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He's doing computer science so he will no doubt know a lot more about them that the OP, I would say let the person doing the course say what machine he needs.

Mont Blanc

1,226 posts

49 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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thebraketester said:
13" M2 MacBook Air will probably see him through a levels and uni. (Add a external screen when/if needed)
This is what I would be buying.

LunarOne

5,699 posts

143 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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If he's studying computer science, then he'll likely be writing and compiling code over and over again. Code compilation is very CPU intensive but often not multi-threaded, so a decently powerful machine would be nice to have. An i7 rather than an i5 I'd say. Get at least 16GB RAM, and if possible more so that he can run one or more Linux virtual machines with ease. All modern laptops will have solid state storage - you need at least 250GB+ of storage space, more is better.

I work in IT and have no particular allegiance to either the Mac or PC platforms, but be aware that recent Macs don't use x86 processors any more, and that might make a Mac unsuitable depending on the syllabus. Either way, I always advocate a Lenovo laptop if an Apple Macbook isn't suitable. I've had Dells, HPs and a few other brands and none are as good a Lenovo for durability and reliability, but everything trumps Lenovo for style.

wyson

2,436 posts

110 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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the-norseman said:
He's doing computer science so he will no doubt know a lot more about them that the OP, I would say let the person doing the course say what machine he needs.
So he is gonna spec a Razer Blade 16 with RTX 4090? Snip at about £5k. Op didn’t mention a budget smile. Will definitely cope with A-Levels and a uni CS course.

The Gauge

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2,759 posts

19 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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wyson said:
So he is gonna spec a Razer Blade 16 with RTX 4090? Snip at about £5k. Op didn’t mention a budget smile. Will definitely cope with A-Levels and a uni CS course.
Difficult to set a budget as I have to factor in the amount of money I lose if he drops it and breaks it when going to/from school, meaning I have to buy another, compared to spending enough to get the correct spec for his needs.

I suppose I'd hope around £600 might get the laptop he needs, but anything less than that would lessen the ££ impact if he dropped/broke it. I'm guessing I'd need a bit more than £600 for an i7 with 16GB Ram, 512GB SSD and light enough to carry each day?



Edited by The Gauge on Monday 2nd October 21:14

mikef

5,150 posts

257 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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For A-levels and Uni I got junior a Dell XPS 13 with 4 years coverage, which we claimed on twice (next day call-out, fitting a new screen and keyboard, so worth every penny). When that one was four years old we sold it for a good price and bought the latest model XPS 13 which is still going strong after MSc

The Gauge

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2,759 posts

19 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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Any recommended placed to buy from please?

Buttery Ken

21,044 posts

193 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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If it's compatible with his course I'd recommend a MacBook Air (M1 or M2 - 16/512)

Or if you need Windows, then Lenovo have some decent kit on sale at the moment. Click

the-photographer

3,810 posts

182 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2023
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The Gauge said:
Any recommended placed to buy from please?
For the XPS with warranty? Try https://www.dell.com/en-uk/dfh/lp/outlet

dcb

5,894 posts

271 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2023
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The Gauge said:
Any recommended placed to buy from please?
pcspecialist.co.uk is my favourite.

Multiple computers over more than 15 years.


The Gauge

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2,759 posts

19 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2023
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the-photographer said:
For the XPS with warranty? Try https://www.dell.com/en-uk/dfh/lp/outlet
Thanks. Are Dells refurbished laptops a good purchase, worth buying?

the-photographer

3,810 posts

182 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2023
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The Gauge said:
Thanks. Are Dells refurbished laptops a good purchase, worth buying?
Yes, they are customer returns with a warranty, just compare prices to brand new to ensure there is "enough" of a saving

maccas99

1,744 posts

194 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2023
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Another vote for Dell refurb/Outlet - always buy these and never have an issue, always come shrink wrapped like new (needs to be certified refurbished).

wyson

2,436 posts

110 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2023
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Get a P, H or HX processor, not a U. This letter will postfix a set of numbers eg. i5 13500H.

i3, i5, i7 denote a pecking order in a processor line up and aren’t indicative of absolute performance. An i5 HX will demolish any i7 U for sustained processing performance.

Will help a lot with tasks that require sustained performance. Like software compilation and gaming smile

Razer Blade 16, 32GB RAM, RTX-4080, i9 13950HX will definitely breeze through a bit of software compilation, be reasonably portable, and he might be able to play a game or two. £3.6k, if you are baulking at the near £5k cost of the RTX-4090 version. Someone has to advocate for your son! smile

In seriousness though, gaming is a huge industry, why would you spec a laptop that wont allow him to experiment in that space if he is interested in CS and gaming? What if he goes away for uni and has the tiniest student room that won’t have space for his desktop set up?

Edited by wyson on Tuesday 3rd October 12:03