Is this adequate for gaming??

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Jasandjules

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70,412 posts

235 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Ok, I want to get Starfield. But I would also enjoy flight sims, Fallout 4, Skyrim and so on.

That being said, is this powerful enough?

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devnull

3,787 posts

163 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Yup it will be fine, think it will be about medium settings for starfield.

Griffith4ever

4,571 posts

41 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Medium!!?! I'm running a 3070 on a current gen i5 at ultra wide res and have a lot of settings on high and ultra, 100 % scaling, NO to dynamic res, with only 1 or 2 settings on med, and that's without the DLSS mod installed and it runs beautifully.

That 4060 ti will run a bit faster than my 3070.

Sheetmaself

5,775 posts

204 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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This is not computer bashing and nor do i want it to become such.

How much better is the experience through a PC over an Xbox?

I think if i wanted to i could use keyboard and mouse so guess difference comes down to graphics and mods?

I play using an X on a 65” tv and it looks spectacular, how much would i be blown away by a pc like this with a good screen?

Jasandjules

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Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Sheetmaself said:
How much better is the experience through a PC over an Xbox?
Well my thought process is simple - I have had Playstations my whole adult life and never an X Box. So I won't start now, may as well take the "opportunity" to get a PC for gaming. I know it is rather more expensive but I am hoping it will be worth it for older games like Fallout 4 and Skyrim too...





Griffith4ever

4,571 posts

41 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Sheetmaself said:
This is not computer bashing and nor do i want it to become such.

How much better is the experience through a PC over an Xbox?

I think if i wanted to i could use keyboard and mouse so guess difference comes down to graphics and mods?

I play using an X on a 65” tv and it looks spectacular, how much would i be blown away by a pc like this with a good screen?
Simple answer, not enough to justify the spend for simply "an improvement". Complicated answer:

It depends on your PC spec, and how the game is written / options available.

A badly ported console to PC game will look the same or worse on the PC unless there are a lot of options to go "ultra" and you have a very powerful PC.

A well written PC game will trounce a console on a decent PC as you'll have so many advanced options that they can't put on a console as console games are written for consistency and on a defined platform. They want a steady FPS and it to work on several generations of the same console.

They are different experiences.

Console games are designed for sit back , controller controlled, 4k, 65" gaming.
PC games are generally designed for Keyb& mouse (far superior control), 1080p-4k, with ultra wide and 2k in between.

PC you are sat much closer so Res is far less important (smaller screens,and 1080p still looks superb). Ultra wide is a game changer - I've got the Alienware OLED jobby and it's amazing. Not sure consoles support ultra wide, but then you have a HUGE TV instead.

PCs allow more tinkering, more game variety, cheaper games (CD Keys etc, or.... Yearrrghh! pieces of eight!) but of course the PC is much more expensive. >PC games often also allow mods so you can upgrade to crazy high textures and the likes.

You don't need to spend a fortune if you don't get drawn down the ultra FPS alley. I'm finding a 3070 with an i5 stomps on pretty much everything I play. Even Star Citizen runs great on High, and that's not optimised it say the least.

They are different beasts.

Oh - and one massive factor - I sit at the back of our lounge with my headset on playing all evening whilst Mrs Griff watches telly. Console action? not a chance. Her ex husband was into Colin MCrae Ralley on PS2 and she still laments sitting there listening to "right 30, don't cut!, into square left "...



Edited by Griffith4ever on Saturday 23 September 15:37

frisbee

5,112 posts

116 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Jasandjules said:
Sheetmaself said:
How much better is the experience through a PC over an Xbox?
Well my thought process is simple - I have had Playstations my whole adult life and never an X Box. So I won't start now, may as well take the "opportunity" to get a PC for gaming. I know it is rather more expensive but I am hoping it will be worth it for older games like Fallout 4 and Skyrim too...
This was my thought process as well when I built a PC a few weeks ago.

I did it in the lounge and plugged it into the TV to install windows, with the intention of moving it up to the office.

Its still in the lounge, with hindsight I should have just bought an Xbox and saved a shed load of money.

Sheetmaself

5,775 posts

204 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Thank you for the responses.

beer

Jasandjules

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70,412 posts

235 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Well have ordered an I7 (4.8 Ghz) with RTX 4060........ It says it will run Fallout 4 on high settings.....

Griffith4ever

4,571 posts

41 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Jasandjules said:
Well have ordered an I7 (4.8 Ghz) with RTX 4060........ It says it will run Fallout 4 on high settings.....
It should run it on max settings. No idea why so many game specs are so cautious now. I've just watched a YT vid of Fallout 4, 4k, Ultra settings, 3070, at 80-100fps.......

Mr Whippy

29,512 posts

247 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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frisbee said:
Jasandjules said:
Sheetmaself said:
How much better is the experience through a PC over an Xbox?
Well my thought process is simple - I have had Playstations my whole adult life and never an X Box. So I won't start now, may as well take the "opportunity" to get a PC for gaming. I know it is rather more expensive but I am hoping it will be worth it for older games like Fallout 4 and Skyrim too...
This was my thought process as well when I built a PC a few weeks ago.

I did it in the lounge and plugged it into the TV to install windows, with the intention of moving it up to the office.

Its still in the lounge, with hindsight I should have just bought an Xbox and saved a shed load of money.
I have a game PC in lounge.

And a Corsair k63 + lapboard, and a Corsair mouse. So can sit on sofa and play games.

Also have two Xbox controllers and an old DS3 PS3 controller working fine in Win10.

Play everything from Steam, HL1 remake, to animal revolt battle sim (sons fave), to streets of rage 4 from GoG, to forza horizon, GT5 on PS3 emulator, to some old C64 and Amiga games (Wacky Races!) on emulators.

Bought a funny stick man game the other day for a few quid (from makers of TABS iirc), and me, wife, son and 4yr old daughter all play together.


A PC just makes more sense. You can play almost any game ever because of emulators, and Xbox controllers are near universally usable in most games, emulators etc now.


To buy an Xbox is a load easier but the costs creep back in with games, controllers, and ultimately, rapid obsolescence.

Jasandjules

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70,412 posts

235 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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The tragedy is my PC comes with a 1TB SSD. I am looking at games I want and thinking I already need to buy a second 2TB SSD... And the PC has not even arrived yet...

FourWheelDrift

89,386 posts

290 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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This is currently a bargain, 2TB Crucial P3 just £64. I've just bought one myself (and an NVMe external case to use it as an external backup) assuming your motherboard in your pre-built isn't horribly specced and doesn't have a 2nd NMVe slot (which it should) this would work perfectly in the 2nd slot.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B25MJ1YT?psc=1&r...

Jasandjules

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70,412 posts

235 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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When it arrives I will check if it allows a second, I hope so !! Thanks for the link, found a few in the 70 to 80 range but they seem to have faily slow speeds...