fibre ethernet solution . . .

[khushy]

recently we finally had fibre installed and activated - where we live there are only 10 houses and BB was rubbish - we tried BT, and satellite and ended up on 4G sim cards - I run an eCommerce biz - it was painful.

Wessex Internet were excellent - no mess no fuss no bull and now we get 500Mbs/250Mbs - all day every day

My office is a cable run of about 40m from the fibre box which was installed in the house - I installed CAT7 external cable and its good - almost no loss at all - then I installed fibre optic/OM3/duplex/armoured cable with a TP-Link Gigabit media converter on each end - zero loss now

so fast and all for under £100

[quinny100]

If you were getting packet loss on a 40M run of Cat7 either the cable was damaged or it was badly terminated. Why Cat7 anyway? You’d have been better using Cat5e for 40M - it’s much easier to work with and terminate properly.

I’d much prefer a copper run to fibre using cheapo media converters.

[donkmeister]

Would agree with the above... The only reason to go fibre over those distances are if you are going beyond 2.5G. I'm currently using Cat6 for 2.5G over similar distances (using toolless keystone at the patch and IDC sockets at the wall), and have no packet loss or re-handshaking.

I've recently started an upgrade path to connect some of my gear at 10G (currently all working in one place using DAC) and will be using some industrial (apparently that's what exterior grade armoured is called on FS.com) OM4 to my outbuilding for future proofing and totally not for bragging rights about being 100G ready...

[quinny100]

donkmeister said:

Would agree with the above... The only reason to go fibre over those distances are if you are going beyond 2.5G. I'm currently using Cat6 for 2.5G over similar distances (using toolless keystone at the patch and IDC sockets at the wall), and have no packet loss or re-handshaking.

I've recently started an upgrade path to connect some of my gear at 10G (currently all working in one place using DAC) and will be using some industrial (apparently that's what exterior grade armoured is called on FS.com) OM4 to my outbuilding for future proofing and totally not for bragging rights about being 100G ready...

You would get 10G over well installed Cat5e at 45M easily.

If you want to be properly future proof you should install single mode fibre (OS2). The only real advantage multi mode has over SM is traditionally the optics/transceivers were cheaper, but with third party kit there’s not much in it at all. SM is way more flexible at scale as you can do C/DWDM for multiple waves over the same fibre where MM needs MTP cables with multiple fibre cores once you go over 10/25G*.

• SR2 optics will do 100G over a pair of MM fibres, but they’re expensive and not widely supported. With networking, stick to standard stuff wherever you can.

[theboss]

quinny100 said:

You would get 10G over well installed Cat5e at 45M easily.

If you want to be properly future proof you should install single mode fibre (OS2). The only real advantage multi mode has over SM is traditionally the optics/transceivers were cheaper, but with third party kit there’s not much in it at all. SM is way more flexible at scale as you can do C/DWDM for multiple waves over the same fibre where MM needs MTP cables with multiple fibre cores once you go over 10/25G*.

• SR2 optics will do 100G over a pair of MM fibres, but they’re expensive and not widely supported. With networking, stick to standard stuff wherever you can.

Useful info - I'll bear all this in mind when I'm setting up my 100Gbps garage link!

[Mr Pointy]

quinny100 said:

You would get 10G over well installed Cat5e at 45M easily.

If you want to be properly future proof you should install single mode fibre (OS2). The only real advantage multi mode has over SM is traditionally the optics/transceivers were cheaper, but with third party kit there’s not much in it at all. SM is way more flexible at scale as you can do C/DWDM for multiple waves over the same fibre where MM needs MTP cables with multiple fibre cores once you go over 10/25G*.

• SR2 optics will do 100G over a pair of MM fibres, but they’re expensive and not widely supported. With networking, stick to standard stuff wherever you can.

MM is much more forgiving of dust in a domestic environment though. I can't see a home user cleaning the ends everytime they unplug the connector.

[donkmeister]

quinny100 said:

donkmeister said:

Would agree with the above... The only reason to go fibre over those distances are if you are going beyond 2.5G. I'm currently using Cat6 for 2.5G over similar distances (using toolless keystone at the patch and IDC sockets at the wall), and have no packet loss or re-handshaking.

I've recently started an upgrade path to connect some of my gear at 10G (currently all working in one place using DAC) and will be using some industrial (apparently that's what exterior grade armoured is called on FS.com) OM4 to my outbuilding for future proofing and totally not for bragging rights about being 100G ready...

You would get 10G over well installed Cat5e at 45M easily.

If you want to be properly future proof you should install single mode fibre (OS2). The only real advantage multi mode has over SM is traditionally the optics/transceivers were cheaper, but with third party kit there’s not much in it at all. SM is way more flexible at scale as you can do C/DWDM for multiple waves over the same fibre where MM needs MTP cables with multiple fibre cores once you go over 10/25G*.

• SR2 optics will do 100G over a pair of MM fibres, but they’re expensive and not widely supported. With networking, stick to standard stuff wherever you can.

True, however 10Gbase-T is poo. Apparently "you make your 10G connections with RJ45 connectors" is a grave insult in network engineering circles.

At least that's the impression I got when I looked into it.

I think OM4 will do me for long enough