Probably a simple solution? Full FTTP Query

Probably a simple solution? Full FTTP Query

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GE90

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381 posts

126 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Hi

I’m a happy customer of Plusnet, with FTTC running about 60 Mbps download. Daughter has returned from university and son is heavy gaming user. Plusnet offering slightly faster FTTP as no extra cost.

Question is, we have a landline with a phone in the bedroom, which is called and wakes us if elderly family need us/in emergency.

Not really keen on having mobiles in the bedroom disturbing us, but it seems we cannot get say VOIP phones with Plusnet? Others must have been in the same position, or is this just another indication that we are getting old?!

Any thoughts appreciated.

Road2Ruin

5,409 posts

222 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Pretty sure you can get IP phone with plusnet, plusnet just won't supply you one. Anyway, in the interim, why can't you put your mobiles to 'do not disturb' with the exception of certain numbers maybe? I doubt you would find yourself using 60Mbps in your circumstances, but if it's 'free' I would consider it myself too.

TEKNOPUG

19,248 posts

211 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Be aware that should you experience a power cut, VOIP phones won't work. Which makes them somewhat of a backwards step to landlines.

You're much better off with a mobile phone, assuming you have signal.

Captain_Morgan

1,243 posts

65 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
Be aware that should you experience a power cut, VOIP phones won't work. Which makes them somewhat of a backwards step to landlines.

You're much better off with a mobile phone, assuming you have signal.
Unfortunately that won’t work after the migration to the copper cabling due to complete in 2025.

You will need a voip telephone or voip to dect converter & a ups that powers both the modem, router & voip device.

Ydnaroo

290 posts

208 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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PN don't do digital voice. If you ask for FTTP they'll lkely put your broadband on fibre and leave your phone on copper/PSTN for now - they'll still want your business.. Ring and ask. If you wanted DV (I know you don't) they'd introduce to to their partner BT/EE. I wanted FTTP before PN offered it and they did that for me and I left mid contract with no penalty.

TEKNOPUG

19,248 posts

211 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Captain_Morgan said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Be aware that should you experience a power cut, VOIP phones won't work. Which makes them somewhat of a backwards step to landlines.

You're much better off with a mobile phone, assuming you have signal.
Unfortunately that won’t work after the migration to the copper cabling due to complete in 2025.

You will need a voip telephone or voip to dect converter & a ups that powers both the modem, router & voip device.
Or just a mobile phone. Which you can also make calls via WiFi. Making VOIP pointless.

Captain_Morgan

1,243 posts

65 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
Captain_Morgan said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Be aware that should you experience a power cut, VOIP phones won't work. Which makes them somewhat of a backwards step to landlines.

You're much better off with a mobile phone, assuming you have signal.
Unfortunately that won’t work after the migration to the copper cabling due to complete in 2025.

You will need a voip telephone or voip to dect converter & a ups that powers both the modem, router & voip device.
Or just a mobile phone. Which you can also make calls via WiFi. Making VOIP pointless.
Apart from the op stating that he doesn’t want a mobile phone in his bedroom.

S6PNJ

5,296 posts

287 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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GE90 said:
Hi

I’m a happy customer of Plusnet, with FTTC running about 60 Mbps download. Daughter has returned from university and son is heavy gaming user. Plusnet offering slightly faster FTTP as no extra cost.

Question is, we have a landline with a phone in the bedroom, which is called and wakes us if elderly family need us/in emergency.

Not really keen on having mobiles in the bedroom disturbing us, but it seems we cannot get say VOIP phones with Plusnet? Others must have been in the same position, or is this just another indication that we are getting old?!

Any thoughts appreciated.
Anyone with an internet connection, can get/use a VOIP phone - it is ISP agnostic and also connection agnostic (3G/4G/5G data, wifi, ethernet etc etc). You simple sign up with a suitable provider (I use Miso-comms). You should be able to migrate your existing number or if you wish to keep the landline, get a new number. I've been using VOIP for around 3 years now. I also have a VOIP app on my phone, so if I'm out and about, using either my mobile phone data or available wifi, I can have my 'home phone' with me.

Yes, there is always the issue that if you suffer a power cut at home, the VOIP won't work, but to mitigate this, I have a UPS on my FTTP termination and wifi router where that comes into the house, and them my DECT handset is also powered through another UPS as it is in another location. But how often do you get or have you experienced a power cut recently?

TEKNOPUG

19,248 posts

211 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Captain_Morgan said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Captain_Morgan said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Be aware that should you experience a power cut, VOIP phones won't work. Which makes them somewhat of a backwards step to landlines.

You're much better off with a mobile phone, assuming you have signal.
Unfortunately that won’t work after the migration to the copper cabling due to complete in 2025.

You will need a voip telephone or voip to dect converter & a ups that powers both the modem, router & voip device.
Or just a mobile phone. Which you can also make calls via WiFi. Making VOIP pointless.
Apart from the op stating that he doesn’t want a mobile phone in his bedroom.
They don't want a mobile phone in the bedroom disturbing them. So simply set the mobile phone to Do Not Disturb, with the exception of the 1 phone number, as per the OP requirement.

gavsdavs

1,203 posts

132 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
Be aware that should you experience a power cut, VOIP phones won't work. Which makes them somewhat of a backwards step to landlines.

You're much better off with a mobile phone, assuming you have signal.
Yes, the copper pair landlines are powered directly by the exchange. Does anyone still rely on landlines ?

I have one of these
https://www.voipon.co.uk/gigaset-n300ip-dect-base-...
and a couple of battery powered handsets.

Along with the router it sits on the UPS and survives power outages (to my house, not the exchange at far end of the fibre)

My ISP supplies me with a VOIP service (I ported in my BT number) which helps.

Edited by gavsdavs on Thursday 27th July 13:55

donkmeister

8,960 posts

106 months

Friday 28th July 2023
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Ydnaroo said:
PN don't do digital voice. If you ask for FTTP they'll lkely put your broadband on fibre and leave your phone on copper/PSTN for now - they'll still want your business.. Ring and ask. If you wanted DV (I know you don't) they'd introduce to to their partner BT/EE. I wanted FTTP before PN offered it and they did that for me and I left mid contract with no penalty.
I went from Plusnet FTTC to FTTP and can confirm that keeping a copper telephone line was indeed an option.

OpenReach even left the copper in place, despite me declining a phone line, so I now have a fibre and a copper line.

Also echoing the person who recommended a UPS. I have all my router etc on one and get a good few hours when the power goes; needed to configure an option on the UPS due to the load being so low it was shutting itself off!

camel_landy

5,050 posts

189 months

Friday 28th July 2023
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Why VoIP?

Are you overthinking this?

Whilst the back end will be VoIP, that'll be invisible to the consumer... The consumer will be presented with a socket, into which the 'normal' phone is plugged.

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HantsRat

2,379 posts

114 months

Friday 28th July 2023
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Just use a mobile phone?

If worried about disturbances, set it to do not disturb so all notification are muted apart from certain phone calls/numbers.

Simple.