MSword docs on one.drive.live.com keep getting "modified"?
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Hi
I have an old PC still use windows 7, BT wifi and have Malwarebytes, CC Cleaner and MS security - all free versions.
Password used to be generic, but changed them recently to longer, with full variety of upper, lower, numbers etc and also now have completely different ones, rather than variations of one. My PC is locked, so you need password when it's switched on.
I live with elderley parents, Dad 94 and mum 89 with dementia. Dad can just about use a pc/laptop but it's normally solitaire only and maybe a tiny bit of "googling". He has his own 2 computers, one is not even connected to 'net. Mum doesn't even know what the internet is. I pretty much used my PC for a little bit of gaming, Youtube, but mostly email, buying / paying (Ebay/PAYPAL) etc so never bothered with MS office when I got it built about 10 years ago.
Recently needed to put something in writing (long complaint) so used onedrive fo MS word docs as used this for the odd letter etc before. All docs are marked private.
The past couple of days the complaint docs are showing as having being modified, but all the other documents are not.
Same happened last night, didn't go onto the onedrive for the whole day, looked today, and voila, it's happened again the complaint docs showing as modified between 23:47 and 0:04, all other docs showing no change?
Absolutely 100% it's not me doing this, especially as yesterday was my birthday so I'd had a few beers and was on youtube vids for the last few hours, didn't go onto onedrive for the entire day as was taking a break.
Can anyone advise what could be possible causes for this?
Thanks
I have an old PC still use windows 7, BT wifi and have Malwarebytes, CC Cleaner and MS security - all free versions.
Password used to be generic, but changed them recently to longer, with full variety of upper, lower, numbers etc and also now have completely different ones, rather than variations of one. My PC is locked, so you need password when it's switched on.
I live with elderley parents, Dad 94 and mum 89 with dementia. Dad can just about use a pc/laptop but it's normally solitaire only and maybe a tiny bit of "googling". He has his own 2 computers, one is not even connected to 'net. Mum doesn't even know what the internet is. I pretty much used my PC for a little bit of gaming, Youtube, but mostly email, buying / paying (Ebay/PAYPAL) etc so never bothered with MS office when I got it built about 10 years ago.
Recently needed to put something in writing (long complaint) so used onedrive fo MS word docs as used this for the odd letter etc before. All docs are marked private.
The past couple of days the complaint docs are showing as having being modified, but all the other documents are not.
Same happened last night, didn't go onto the onedrive for the whole day, looked today, and voila, it's happened again the complaint docs showing as modified between 23:47 and 0:04, all other docs showing no change?
Absolutely 100% it's not me doing this, especially as yesterday was my birthday so I'd had a few beers and was on youtube vids for the last few hours, didn't go onto onedrive for the entire day as was taking a break.
Can anyone advise what could be possible causes for this?
Thanks
Thank you for replying..
No, i don't think so as yesterday I didn't even go to the onedrive website, let alone open one of the docs.
Just out of curiosity, I'll post a link to it, if anyone can open any of the docs then please let me know how you did it(?!)
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=DC991EC42FBBE8B7%211...
No, i don't think so as yesterday I didn't even go to the onedrive website, let alone open one of the docs.
Just out of curiosity, I'll post a link to it, if anyone can open any of the docs then please let me know how you did it(?!)
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=DC991EC42FBBE8B7%211...
Dogwatch said:
Not relevant to your problem but I ditched CCleaner for Bleachbit following reports of “goings on” under the new owners after it changed hands.
No worries, thank you for reading my post and replying.droopsnoot said:
I tried that, I couldn't see anything of your file. My MS account is apparently "frozen" and will take 24 hours to thaw out (or "unfreeze") so I can't see if I get the same problem unfortunately.
OK, no worries, thank you for trying and replying.droopsnoot said:
No problem. I tried again now the account is unfrozen and I still can't see your document, it just opens my (empty) folders.
Thank you, I got some friend's to try aswell, they were just getting login screens too.I thought I'd add some context to this but am a bit worried how this might turn out, so I just want to clarify the earth is NOT flat and I'm 110% sure that both nessie and bigfoot are not real, but the ISS is definately real. I do, however, have autism and my stress levels are currently through the roof as looking after my elderly parents is extremly difficult as both have bad incontinence which theyre in denial about, mum hates dad and lives seperate life in same house and did is in denial about this - it's a real mess, at times literally.
The 'docs' are a formal complaint (and potentionally legal action) against Council's Adult Social Services and their Safeguarding team. The safeguarding team do everything from domestic abuse to modern day slavery and counter terrorism, although their websites now are alot more friendly and less scary now than it was 2 1/2 years ago.
What's happened with other family members and social services over the past few years has left my brain quite scrambled and numb, resulting in my mental health hitting rock bottom (this is which is what the complaint is about).
Although I haven't got many braincells left now, didn't have that many to start with, I know for sure things like when I work on these docs (it's mostly late at night when all duties with my parents have finished and I can just do my own thing without interruptions of any kind).
This (documents being changed) isn't an isolated occurrance. I had the same password for my iCloud as what was used for some council sites, but I only access my iCloud via my PC, as I find it so much easier to do things with mouse and keyboard than small phone screen. I've also set notifications on so I get a mesage on my phone everytime I access my iCloud.
The reason for thi mini essay is that I had a notification on my phone someone was accessing my iCloud on my PC - whilst mum and I were in the queue at Asda. I remember this clearly because we virtually never go to Asda (it was a once a year thing, if that). We always go to Waitrose as the staff there know mum has dementia and they make an effort to come and say hello etc, they're absolutely brillliant. There is not a chance in hell that was me accessing my PC on that occaision.
I'm a bit worried I might seem like I'm sitting here with my tinfoil hat on, as well as going a it off topic a bit, but I thought I'd add a bit of context and as hey say "in for a penny in for a pouind". Pretty sure the worse from posting this is nothing comparred to what's happened with social services over the past 2 years.
I'm not very IT or tech savvy, I see things like VPNs etc being advertised, but havn't a clue where to start. Would updating to latest windows help, changing Malware etc to paid for ones instead of using the freebies??
Anyways, if anyone has got this far then fair play to you, and if anyone can advise what can be done to try and make my PC / internet "safer" that'd be very much appreciated?
Also if someone can advise how things like my iPhone can still connect to my WIFI even though I've changed the wifi password, but haven't done any changes on my phone, just literally pressed "reconnect".
Many thanks in advance for any help or at least making it to end of the post..
OSF
I had an issue with an anti virus doing it's scan and then noting modifications to some folders.
It's a few years ago now and I think I was using Bit Defender anti virus at the time. I definitely had Malware bytes on as well
The modifications occurred the same time that a scheduled scan had performed
It's a few years ago now and I think I was using Bit Defender anti virus at the time. I definitely had Malware bytes on as well
The modifications occurred the same time that a scheduled scan had performed
How about making sure one version of the doc is exactly as it should be. Delete all other copies. Duplicate it, store it locally or on a USB stick or something, then upload it back to the problem location, leave it for a couple of days, download it and compare it with the locally stored doc using word count and character count for a start, see if you can see a difference.
Should give you somewhere to start from.
Should give you somewhere to start from.
anonymoususer said:
I had an issue with an anti virus doing it's scan and then noting modifications to some folders.
It's a few years ago now and I think I was using Bit Defender anti virus at the time. I definitely had Malware bytes on as well
The modifications occurred the same time that a scheduled scan had performed
It's a few years ago now and I think I was using Bit Defender anti virus at the time. I definitely had Malware bytes on as well
The modifications occurred the same time that a scheduled scan had performed
ReverendCounter said:
How about making sure one version of the doc is exactly as it should be. Delete all other copies. Duplicate it, store it locally or on a USB stick or something, then upload it back to the problem location, leave it for a couple of days, download it and compare it with the locally stored doc using word count and character count for a start, see if you can see a difference.
Should give you somewhere to start from.
Thank you for your replies and advice..Should give you somewhere to start from.
I've put copies onto USB sticks so they can be safely stored.
If anone can advise about whether it'd be worth getting a VPN or paid security rather than relying on the free versions? Also,how can I upgrade to the latest windows, do I have to physically buy it as I'm running such an old system?
I got my PC built by a local shop about 10 years or more ago, I still have the stuff (boxes) that came with all the sofftware, I presume there's no way of upgrading for free, but if anyone knows dufferent then that'd be appreciated, as would any advice on how to improve sercurity / safety of wifi / PC?
I still don't understand how devices like phone and printer can still work even though I've compeltely changed wifi and hub manager passwords?
Apologies for all the questions, many thanks in advance for any help / advice..
Not seeing anything that makes me think a VPN would be of any benefit to you.
Run a couple of malware scanners on your computer and make sure that all your accounts (or at a bare minimum the ones you value and that have the potential to mess with your life) have strong unique passwords and enable 2FA on them.
Run a couple of malware scanners on your computer and make sure that all your accounts (or at a bare minimum the ones you value and that have the potential to mess with your life) have strong unique passwords and enable 2FA on them.
OP, there is no shortage of bug reports about file dates and times on OneDrive, e.g.
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/onedrive-fo...
If that is the only symptom, i.e. if the file contents are not changed, then I would just ignore it.
If you are still worried, change your Windows password.
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/onedrive-fo...
If that is the only symptom, i.e. if the file contents are not changed, then I would just ignore it.
If you are still worried, change your Windows password.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Not seeing anything that makes me think a VPN would be of any benefit to you.
Run a couple of malware scanners on your computer and make sure that all your accounts (or at a bare minimum the ones you value and that have the potential to mess with your life) have strong unique passwords and enable 2FA on them.
Run a couple of malware scanners on your computer and make sure that all your accounts (or at a bare minimum the ones you value and that have the potential to mess with your life) have strong unique passwords and enable 2FA on them.
sunbeam alpine said:
Apologies if I missed it, but has the document in question actually been modified, or is it only showing as having been accessed?
grumbledoak said:
OP, there is no shortage of bug reports about file dates and times on OneDrive, e.g.
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/onedrive-fo...
If that is the only symptom, i.e. if the file contents are not changed, then I would just ignore it.
If you are still worried, change your Windows password.
Thank you for your replies.https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/onedrive-fo...
If that is the only symptom, i.e. if the file contents are not changed, then I would just ignore it.
If you are still worried, change your Windows password.
Passwords were changed to much longer and varied characters, before they were a simple one and the same for most sites. I changed to something twice as long and alot more varied, it was a number of words put together, but had numbers, capitol letters and things like # or $ randomnly included.
Yeh, the content of at least one of the documents were changed. It was the one where I copied paragraphs from a local gov website and then I explained why I felt this was relevant to my complaint. I changed the copied and pasted paragraphs to italic text to help identify / differentiate them and left my written paragraghs normal.
After the "modifying", the paragraphs I'd typed myself were now completely underlined, from start to finish. It was quite obvious as large chunks of text were now underlined, so it stood out alot.
I've been trying to finish this for a few weeks now, but struggle with dealing with large amounts of typed info aswell as going through what has happened. I've kept things like pesentation similiar from doc to doc, what is hghlighted, what is underlined, how it's spaced as this helps me to deal with the amount of content.
I've got a number of older documents on there relating to things like my dad's medicine's, what foods he can / can't take with certain tablets, there's about the same number of docs that are old (1 -2 years ago) and unrelated to the complaint, yet none of these were shown as modified.
If anyone has any experience of making formal complaints about adult social services / safeguarding that'd be a massive help as I'm being passed from one organisation to another, age uk to CAB, surrey healthwatch. I've done most of the work and collated alot of the info but they'r asking me about what outcomes I want and I don't have a clue what I shoud, or could ask for.
I'm guessing I've just de-railed my own thread, but thought I'd throw it out there s getting a bit desperate..
Once again, many thanks for all those who has read and replied, it's genuinely much appreciated.
Andy
If you haven't done so do enable 2FA on your important accounts - it's a no brainer these days especially when you consider how much trouble you'd be in if someone got into your email account and could act as you.
On the wider issue with your parents I'd perhaps raise a separate thread in the health forum as you'll hopefully get a better and wider audience there.
Very best of luck
On the wider issue with your parents I'd perhaps raise a separate thread in the health forum as you'll hopefully get a better and wider audience there.
Very best of luck
I can't advise on the techy side, so to go massively left field - Do you have a carbon monoxide detector at home, OP?
It reminds me of an infamous post on Reddit where someone was finding post-it notes all over their home with bizarre notes on, in a different handwriting to their own - "Save your documents", "our landlord isn't letting me talk to you, we need to", and lots of just blank notes everywhere. They thought their landlord was stalking them.
Someone suggested they get a CO detector, turns out they had a minor leak and so had CO poisoning and was writing the notes themselves.
Of course, it's much more likely someone has access to your accounts and is doing odd stuff, or a virus.
But still.
Hope you get things sorted with your complaint and so on
It reminds me of an infamous post on Reddit where someone was finding post-it notes all over their home with bizarre notes on, in a different handwriting to their own - "Save your documents", "our landlord isn't letting me talk to you, we need to", and lots of just blank notes everywhere. They thought their landlord was stalking them.
Someone suggested they get a CO detector, turns out they had a minor leak and so had CO poisoning and was writing the notes themselves.
Of course, it's much more likely someone has access to your accounts and is doing odd stuff, or a virus.
But still.
Hope you get things sorted with your complaint and so on
Sycamore said:
I can't advise on the techy side, so to go massively left field - Do you have a carbon monoxide detector at home, OP?
It reminds me of an infamous post on Reddit where someone was finding post-it notes all over their home with bizarre notes on, in a different handwriting to their own - "Save your documents", "our landlord isn't letting me talk to you, we need to", and lots of just blank notes everywhere. They thought their landlord was stalking them.
Someone suggested they get a CO detector, turns out they had a minor leak and so had CO poisoning and was writing the notes themselves.
Of course, it's much more likely someone has access to your accounts and is doing odd stuff, or a virus.
But still.
Hope you get things sorted with your complaint and so on
No worries it's OK, I understand what I posted was a bit tinfoil hat kinda stuff, but I absolutely wasn't making any of it up or imagining it. Funnily enough, it was social services who gave us a free safety check, We got some brand new smoke detectors (mum has thoroughly tested them, she's left food in oven and pots/pans on stove until they're nearly on fire), we also got another detector, not sure wha it it is, think it was carbon monoxide as it had to be near the boiler.It reminds me of an infamous post on Reddit where someone was finding post-it notes all over their home with bizarre notes on, in a different handwriting to their own - "Save your documents", "our landlord isn't letting me talk to you, we need to", and lots of just blank notes everywhere. They thought their landlord was stalking them.
Someone suggested they get a CO detector, turns out they had a minor leak and so had CO poisoning and was writing the notes themselves.
Of course, it's much more likely someone has access to your accounts and is doing odd stuff, or a virus.
But still.
Hope you get things sorted with your complaint and so on
For the record my head is f******, underlying mental illness with stress levels turned up to 11 for over 2 1/2years and struggling with a positive release (got spained abductor muscle can't shake and old choulder injuries), so can't even go for a walk to clear my head.
I don't even remember half the stuff I do some days, the last year has beena bit of a blur, my brain just seems to have gone numb.
Anyways, I'll stop rambling...
Thank you for taking time to read and reply..
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: If you haven't done so do enable 2FA on your important accounts - it's a no brainer these days especially when you consider how much trouble you'd be in if someone got into your email account and could act as you.
On the wider issue with your parents I'd perhaps raise a separate thread in the health forum as you'll hopefully get a better and wider audience there.
Very best of luck
Thank you for your reply, I've tried enabling 2fa via my mobile for my microsoft account but I'm not getting a text, I'm left with a page saing "Help us beat the robots"On the wider issue with your parents I'd perhaps raise a separate thread in the health forum as you'll hopefully get a better and wider audience there.
Very best of luck
I got the email verification OK, but no sign of a text message, wondered how long I'd have to wait for text, or is it better to do it via the app says is available?
https://account.live.com/abusechallenge?uaid=c6c9f...
Old_Skool_Fool said:
Thank you for your reply, I've tried enabling 2fa via my mobile for my microsoft account but I'm not getting a text, I'm left with a page saing "Help us beat the robots"
I got the email verification OK, but no sign of a text message, wondered how long I'd have to wait for text, or is it better to do it via the app says is available?
https://account.live.com/abusechallenge?uaid=c6c9f...
App is more modern text is considered a bit "old school" but with the greatest respect if you're not too tech savvy text is also better than nothing and pretty much anyone can deal with texts.I got the email verification OK, but no sign of a text message, wondered how long I'd have to wait for text, or is it better to do it via the app says is available?
https://account.live.com/abusechallenge?uaid=c6c9f...
Usually so long as you've entered the number correctly I'd expect it to come through within seconds.
Just to answer the PM (nothing personal but PistonHeads archaic PM system means it would show my email address) no I'm not a mod and personally I'd go with the health forum as I'd hope and expect you may get a more useful response there v what SP&L can sometimes be
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: App is more modern text is considered a bit "old school" but with the greatest respect if you're not too tech savvy text is also better than nothing and pretty much anyone can deal with texts.
Usually so long as you've entered the number correctly I'd expect it to come through within seconds.
Just to answer the PM (nothing personal but PistonHeads archaic PM system means it would show my email address) no I'm not a mod and personally I'd go with the health forum as I'd hope and expect you may get a more useful response there v what SP&L can sometimes be
No worries, thank you for replying, sorry to trouble you.Usually so long as you've entered the number correctly I'd expect it to come through within seconds.
Just to answer the PM (nothing personal but PistonHeads archaic PM system means it would show my email address) no I'm not a mod and personally I'd go with the health forum as I'd hope and expect you may get a more useful response there v what SP&L can sometimes be
I've tried again, still not getting text? I've got my PAYPAL and iCloud setup to send notifications/verification codes and they always come through almost instantly, but still getting nothing from this.
I just double checked with my iCloud, got instant verfication code. I can't download MS auth app as I have old iPhone 5 and it's saying it's not compatable without ios 15, I presume this is why.
- update ** after trying numerous times it finally brought up the "prove your not a robot" security question (type in the character you see in the box), passed it and immediately sent verfication code to my phone. Don't know why, but all previous attempts wouldn't bring up the actual 'test' you need to pass(?).
Thanks for everything, hopefully this will help with security..
Regards
OSF
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