How to delete Windows 11?

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Original Poster:

2,148 posts

167 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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I want to uninstall Windows 11 so I can keep everything on the current m.2 and then install Windows 11 on a new m.2. The reason why I want to move Windows on to a new m.2 is because I find the downloading things takes ages and transferring things to a 2.5 inch ssd also takes ages. When I say ages I mean download speed is mostly below 2 mb/s and is never above 3.5 mb/s and transfer speed is around 6 mb/s. I know that my internet connection isn’t to blame because I can watch 4K videos without any problems. I suspect it’s Windows that’s the problem since I’ve deleted all bloatware that I’ve been able to find.

I’ve googled how to uninstall Windows, but I’ve not been able to find out how. All the information just tells you how to roll back to Windows 10 or install another operating system. I’ll be keeping my current m.2 because it’s 2TB and it’s got all of my stuff on it and my new m.2 is 256GB, so it’ll only have Windows and drivers on it.

ARHarh

4,147 posts

113 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Just clone your old drive to the new one, google this and it will tell you how. Then wipe the old drive and copy all the data you want to the new drive from the old drive. Make sure your data has copied to the new drive before wiping the old drive. Or just reset windows https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/give-y...

TEKNOPUG

19,249 posts

211 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Install W11 on new M2 and set it to be the primary boot drive. Format the W11 partition on the old M2 drive. Either set it to be a separate drive letter or merge it with another.

Griffith4ever

4,580 posts

41 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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6mb/s on an M.2? You need to bin it,not re use it. It should be around 5000mb/s. And... Downloading from the internet isn't a way to asses disc speed, of and form,

TEKNOPUG

19,249 posts

211 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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ARHarh said:
Just clone your old drive to the new one, google this and it will tell you how. Then wipe the old drive and copy all the data you want to the new drive from the old drive. Make sure your data has copied to the new drive before wiping the old drive. Or just reset windows https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/give-y...
You can't copy 2 TB to 256 GB.....

ARHarh

4,147 posts

113 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
ARHarh said:
Just clone your old drive to the new one, google this and it will tell you how. Then wipe the old drive and copy all the data you want to the new drive from the old drive. Make sure your data has copied to the new drive before wiping the old drive. Or just reset windows https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/give-y...
You can't copy 2 TB to 256 GB.....
Sorry didn't spot that

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2,148 posts

167 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
Install W11 on new M2 and set it to be the primary boot drive. Format the W11 partition on the old M2 drive. Either set it to be a separate drive letter or merge it with another.
I don’t have a separate partition for Windows.

Around 18 months ago I copied what’s on the m.2 from a hard drive from my laptop. That laptop came with Windows 8.1.

Whoozit

3,753 posts

275 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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14 said:
I don’t have a separate partition for Windows.

Around 18 months ago I copied what’s on the m.2 from a hard drive from my laptop. That laptop came with Windows 8.1.
TBH so many accounts are in the cloud, doing a completely new install isn't the pain in the backside it used to be.

Fresh install on new SSD, set as boot disk. Keep old disk, use as Data. Reinstall programs and where possible, point them at the Data disk. Some will work, some won't. I'd presume this is similar to what you did when you transferred the old data from the laptop?

TEKNOPUG

19,249 posts

211 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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14 said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Install W11 on new M2 and set it to be the primary boot drive. Format the W11 partition on the old M2 drive. Either set it to be a separate drive letter or merge it with another.
I don’t have a separate partition for Windows.

Around 18 months ago I copied what’s on the m.2 from a hard drive from my laptop. That laptop came with Windows 8.1.
So all you have on your PC is a single 2 TB C: drive, with no other drives or backups?

14

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2,148 posts

167 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
14 said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Install W11 on new M2 and set it to be the primary boot drive. Format the W11 partition on the old M2 drive. Either set it to be a separate drive letter or merge it with another.
I don’t have a separate partition for Windows.

Around 18 months ago I copied what’s on the m.2 from a hard drive from my laptop. That laptop came with Windows 8.1.
So all you have on your PC is a single 2 TB C: drive, with no other drives or backups?
I have a 4TB ssd as well, but it’s being used for non gaming purposes. I have an old backup on a external hard drive, but that’s several years old and it’s only 500GB capacity. I don’t have a recent backup.

Just thought that I can create a partition on the ssd and backup the m.2 that way.

snuffy

10,303 posts

290 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Have I got this correct?

Currently, you have one drive (i.e. C:\), which is 2TB. It contains windows and your data.

What you want to do is to have a new drive (C:\) whish will be 256BG, and just have windows on it. And then your existing C:\ drive becomes your D:\ drive, i.e. you now have 2 drives, one for Windows and one for Data.

All you do then is to unplug your 2TB drive. Pop in your new 256GB drive and install a nice new copy of Windows on it. In the BIOS, this drive will be the boot drive.

Now reconnect your existing 2TB drive. When you boot up, it will boot off the new 256GB drive (C:\) and you will also now see your data sitting on the 2TB (D:\) drive.

Of course, you will need to reinstall any programs, because they are still on your D:\ drive, your new copy of WIndows is not pointing to them in the registry.

That's it. Apart from that you still have Windows (you old version of it) on your 2TB D:\, under D:\Windows. It you want to delete it to free up that space, then just delete D:\Windows as you would any other folder. You dont need to do anything other than that.






Brainpox

4,097 posts

157 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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OP I hope you come back and let us know if it fixes the problem because I can’t see why your transfer speeds would be that poor purely because of W11.

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2,148 posts

167 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Brainpox said:
OP I hope you come back and let us know if it fixes the problem because I can’t see why your transfer speeds would be that poor purely because of W11.
Yeah, I’m not sure if it’s Windows that’s causing the slow transfer speeds, but I don’t know what else it could be as I’ve uninstalled several programs that were used for the laptop.

Whoozit

3,753 posts

275 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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I had something similar on a desktop. Disk read-writes were off the chart for any activity, but super low data rates. I duplicated the drive onto a new SSD and all fine.

Any help?

Captain_Morgan

1,243 posts

65 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Have you considered some basic troubleshooting?

Have you confirmed there are no bios/fw updates for your motherboard or nic?

Are you connected to your router/switch via ethernet or wireless?

Does the issue remain if you use the alternative network connection?

What speed do you get from a internet speed test in comparison to your file download speeds?

If you install the other m.2 ssd what copy speeds can you get copying between them?

This should help bottom out the cause of the slowdown.

mmm-five

11,389 posts

290 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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14 said:
Yeah, I’m not sure if it’s Windows that’s causing the slow transfer speeds, but I don’t know what else it could be as I’ve uninstalled several programs that were used for the laptop.
What 'programs' have you uninstalled that you thought might be causing slow transfer speeds (drive to drive and internet it seems)?

Are you sure you haven't installed something dodgy, or that you've got conflicting anti-virus suites installed (especially any that are 'free', or contain crypto-miners)?

You don't need to 'uninstall' Windows, you just need to put Windows onto your new 256GB m.2, in the slot you used for the 2TB one, and then boot from that. When you put the 2nd m.2 in you should be able to migrate critical documents over, remembering to keep the 256GB OS m.2 free from junk (and huge files/games/movies) as it will run fastest this way.

14

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Tuesday 9th May 2023
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mmm-five said:
14 said:
Yeah, I’m not sure if it’s Windows that’s causing the slow transfer speeds, but I don’t know what else it could be as I’ve uninstalled several programs that were used for the laptop.
What 'programs' have you uninstalled that you thought might be causing slow transfer speeds (drive to drive and internet it seems)?

Are you sure you haven't installed something dodgy, or that you've got conflicting anti-virus suites installed (especially any that are 'free', or contain crypto-miners)?

You don't need to 'uninstall' Windows, you just need to put Windows onto your new 256GB m.2, in the slot you used for the 2TB one, and then boot from that. When you put the 2nd m.2 in you should be able to migrate critical documents over, remembering to keep the 256GB OS m.2 free from junk (and huge files/games/movies) as it will run fastest this way.
I’ve uninstalled all HP programs and ones that hadn’t been updated or used for years.

I do have AVG free that I’ve had since I bought the laptop in 2014.

alock

4,283 posts

217 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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14 said:
download speed is mostly below 2 mb/s
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14 said:
I can watch 4K videos without any problems.
Windows is probably quoting MB/s, i.e. megabytes per second. 2MB/s = 16Mbps.

As a comparison, most sources say Netflix 4K requires about 15Mbps.

I think you're blaming entirely the wrong thing. If your SSD was this slow then Windows would take about 30 minutes to boot.

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Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Captain_Morgan said:
Have you considered some basic troubleshooting?

Have you confirmed there are no bios/fw updates for your motherboard or nic?

Are you connected to your router/switch via ethernet or wireless?

Does the issue remain if you use the alternative network connection?

What speed do you get from a internet speed test in comparison to your file download speeds?

If you install the other m.2 ssd what copy speeds can you get copying between them?

This should help bottom out the cause of the slowdown.
There is a bios update for the motherboard, which I haven’t got round to download it yet.

I’m connected via wifi. I am unable to test via ethernet due to location of router and I rent a room, so I don’t have access to the router.

From memory I get about 40MB/s on a speed test. The wifi isn’t brilliant, as it’s on the middle floor of a near 100 year house with 3 floors.

I don’t have the other m.2 yet. It should be delivered later this week.

LunarOne

5,703 posts

143 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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I agree. Download crystaldiskmark at https://crystalmark.info/en/ and find out how fast your storage really is. Forget how long it takes to either download or transfer files any other way.