NAS Drive Upgrade

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Megaflow

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9,817 posts

231 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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This is probably a blinding obvious question, that I am fairly sure I know the answer to, but I have searched and I can't find it, so here goes.

I have a ReadyNAS Duo with 2 x 2TB hard drives in it. A couple of years ago I bought a Mac and I can't back up to the NAS because it is not compatible with Time Machine. My wife now backs up files from her new business to it as well, so it ideally needs to be encrypted as well.

If I bought, for example, a Synology DS223 can I take the hard drives from the current ReadyNAS Duo and put them in the Synology or do I need to remove one drive from the ReadyNAS Duo, format it, install it in the Synology and rebuild the volume?

Fairly sure it is the later, which is going to be an enormous ball ache...

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eeLee

837 posts

86 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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I would not expect your RAID/volume to survive the move. I would actually build out a new NAS with new drives and migrate the data over.

Also TimeMachine is fairly simple, run SMB/AFP and Bonjour and it should work. Does it really not work on ReadyNAS?

somouk

1,425 posts

204 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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Agree, I would buy a new multidisk NAS, set it up with redundancy and encryption, test it and then move data across.

Griffith4ever

4,580 posts

41 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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Synology DSM aint going to recognise Netgear ReadyNAS OS. Some of Netgears kit even has problems with versions of their own file system!

Get your new one, new drives (6Gb is a good price point right now - I just upgraded), prep it, then do a file move - chunks at a time, or use a utility.

Megaflow

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9,817 posts

231 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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Thank you.

Exactly what I thought would be the issue then.

eeLee said:
I would not expect your RAID/volume to survive the move. I would actually build out a new NAS with new drives and migrate the data over.

Also TimeMachine is fairly simple, run SMB/AFP and Bonjour and it should work. Does it really not work on ReadyNAS?
No, but I think it predates Time Machine...

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alock

4,283 posts

217 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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An upgrade is always a good opportunity to test your backup strategy is doing what it's supposed to do. It's very easy to go years without doing a full restore test.

Therefore, buy a new NAS with new disks and load the data onto it from your backup.

You have the original NAS to fallback to if you find any holes in your backup. You don't want to be in this position when you don't have this option.

You can then sell or repurpose your original NAS with disks afterwards.

Durzel

12,431 posts

174 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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ReadyNAS Duo should support Time Machine.. something not right there...

That said, I would agree with the above that it sounds like a good opportunity to pressure test your restoration experience.

Megaflow

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Friday 5th May 2023
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Durzel said:
ReadyNAS Duo should support Time Machine.. something not right there...

That said, I would agree with the above that it sounds like a good opportunity to pressure test your restoration experience.
Funnily enough, I have just been into it to investigate encryption and confirmed it does support Time Machine, but not SMB that Time Machine now uses.

But, in doing that I realised that the data is already encrypted to a degree, my wife is concerned about some breaking in, stealing the drive and being able to access the files. But, as we already discovered, the drives are useless outside of the ReadyNAS and it is password protected.

Bit of a non issue then. Thank you all for the advice though.

I probably should look at an upgrade, but it is ~£500 I could do without spending at the minute, my wife is currently booking a trip to Lake Garde for her 40th, so I am about to get rinsed for that bill...

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Durzel

12,431 posts

174 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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What version of RAIDator are you using on the ReadyNAS Duo?

This might help - https://community.netgear.com/t5/ReadyNAS-Storage-...

Mandat

3,970 posts

244 months

Friday 5th May 2023
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Megaflow said:
Funnily enough, I have just been into it to investigate encryption and confirmed it does support Time Machine, but not SMB that Time Machine now uses.

But, in doing that I realised that the data is already encrypted to a degree, my wife is concerned about some breaking in, stealing the drive and being able to access the files. But, as we already discovered, the drives are useless outside of the ReadyNAS and it is password protected.

Bit of a non issue then. Thank you all for the advice though.

I probably should look at an upgrade, but it is ~£500 I could do without spending at the minute, my wife is currently booking a trip to Lake Garde for her 40th, so I am about to get rinsed for that bill...

eek
If the wife is using the NAS for her business files, I would have thought that the obvious answer would be for the business to buy the new NAS, with the added benefits of offsetting the costs in the accounts, and also potentially saving on VAT (assuming the business is VAT registered).

rodericb

7,065 posts

132 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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There's different flavours of ReadyNAS and the approach might be slightly different for each. I moved from a ReadyNAS Duo RND2000 to QNAP TS 464. I think the disk size was limited to 2tb and windows 10 tried hard to not want to have anything to do with it due to security. I bought new drives for the new QNAP as the two in the ReadyNAS were pretty old and were 1TB, besides the fact that the RAID is different and setting up the QNAP I think would overwrite them anyway. I found I could access the ReadyNAS through the QNAP software which made it a bit easier to migrate the data.

The one thing I have found is that the QNAP is a bit noisy, even with WD reds. It's in my loungeroom. I think all the small NAS's are made out of plastic nowadays and do resonate the clunks, chunks and whirrs of the disks to a degree. . If you will have the NAS where it needs to be quiet, don't put it there or possibly use SSD's if you need quietness. You can get NAS's which use SSD's exclusively from QNAP and Synology.

eeLee

837 posts

86 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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rodericb said:
windows 10 tried hard to not want to have anything to do with it due to security
this would be the NAS only doing SMB 1.0 which you have to find and install in modern Windows versions becaue it's crap smile