2023 PC build advice- 4K video editing/gaming
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Hi all,
I am looking for advice from some knowledgeable PC users. I have built a few PCs in the past but I haven’t kept up with the latest pc parts. My PCs motherboard died last night and its time for an update.
I am mainly looking for recommendations on which CPU and GPU I should be getting but if you have any other suggestions please let me know. I will be using the PC to mainly edit photos and videos up to 4K with some gaming.
I used pcpartpicker and came up with the following:
Intel Core i9 10900KF - 3.7 GHz - 10-core - 20 threads - 20 MB cache - LGA1200 Socket – Box
MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI Motherboard ATX - Supports Intel Core 10th Gen Processors, LGA 1200, Memory Boost (DDR4-4800MHz/OC), 2x PCIe 3.0 x16, 2 x M.2, HDMI, 2.5G LAN, Wi-Fi 6
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4
ASRock RX6750 XT Challenger Pro 12GB OC, 12GB DDR6, PCIe4, HDMI, 3 DP, 2618MHz Clock, Overclocked
Should I be going for DDR5 ram? Let me know your thoughts.
Thank you,
Shiny Psyduck
I am looking for advice from some knowledgeable PC users. I have built a few PCs in the past but I haven’t kept up with the latest pc parts. My PCs motherboard died last night and its time for an update.
I am mainly looking for recommendations on which CPU and GPU I should be getting but if you have any other suggestions please let me know. I will be using the PC to mainly edit photos and videos up to 4K with some gaming.
I used pcpartpicker and came up with the following:
Intel Core i9 10900KF - 3.7 GHz - 10-core - 20 threads - 20 MB cache - LGA1200 Socket – Box
MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI Motherboard ATX - Supports Intel Core 10th Gen Processors, LGA 1200, Memory Boost (DDR4-4800MHz/OC), 2x PCIe 3.0 x16, 2 x M.2, HDMI, 2.5G LAN, Wi-Fi 6
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4
ASRock RX6750 XT Challenger Pro 12GB OC, 12GB DDR6, PCIe4, HDMI, 3 DP, 2618MHz Clock, Overclocked
Should I be going for DDR5 ram? Let me know your thoughts.
Thank you,
Shiny Psyduck
The most obvious thing is that you're 3 generations out on the CPU. We're on 13th gen now...and a 13900K is over twice as fast as that 10900KF in PremierPro.
However, the 13900K also needs some serious cooling to stop it from throttling, so maybe a 13700K would suffice (still almost twice as fast at the 10th gen i9 in Premier Pro)?
If you're also looking at 4K gaming then either the AMD6950XT or the RTX4090 (if money no object) should be considered.
I'd stick to DDR4 whilst the DDR5 is still in its infancy, as there isn't much (if any) performance uplift at the moment...without spending silly money. The only exception to this is if you decided to go with an AMD CPU (7800X3D or 7950X3D) for their superior gaming performance...as the current gen is only available with DDR5...and you want 6000MHz+.
However, the 13900K also needs some serious cooling to stop it from throttling, so maybe a 13700K would suffice (still almost twice as fast at the 10th gen i9 in Premier Pro)?
If you're also looking at 4K gaming then either the AMD6950XT or the RTX4090 (if money no object) should be considered.
I'd stick to DDR4 whilst the DDR5 is still in its infancy, as there isn't much (if any) performance uplift at the moment...without spending silly money. The only exception to this is if you decided to go with an AMD CPU (7800X3D or 7950X3D) for their superior gaming performance...as the current gen is only available with DDR5...and you want 6000MHz+.
Edited by mmm-five on Tuesday 18th April 11:16
This is probably worth a read, albeit only covering as far as 12th Gen - https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/video-editi...
The Premier Pro benchmark graph at https://www.cgdirector.com/ddr4-vs-ddr5/ suggests a ~9% benefit from relatively slow DDR5, with presumably more of a gap with faster DDR5, so up to you.
10% or so more speed from RAM is probably easier to cool than a 10% faster Intel CPU......
The Premier Pro benchmark graph at https://www.cgdirector.com/ddr4-vs-ddr5/ suggests a ~9% benefit from relatively slow DDR5, with presumably more of a gap with faster DDR5, so up to you.
10% or so more speed from RAM is probably easier to cool than a 10% faster Intel CPU......
Thank you for the information. I will probably go for the Intel Core i9-13900KF.
What is a good alternative to the RTX4090? Looking for around £600 for the card.
I should say my last build has a 980ti in it which was alright for the most part but moving to 4k its started to show its age.
What is a good alternative to the RTX4090? Looking for around £600 for the card.
I should say my last build has a 980ti in it which was alright for the most part but moving to 4k its started to show its age.
xeny said:
This is probably worth a read, albeit only covering as far as 12th Gen - https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/video-editi...
Much appreciated thanks, I will give this a read-over at lunch 
ShinyPsyduck said:
What is a good alternative to the RTX4090? Looking for around £600 for the card.
Sapphire Nitro+ 6950XT, £630 from Ebuyer - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/M2D7YJ/sapphir...FourWheelDrift said:
ShinyPsyduck said:
What is a good alternative to the RTX4090? Looking for around £600 for the card.
Sapphire Nitro+ 6950XT, £630 from Ebuyer - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/M2D7YJ/sapphir...ShinyPsyduck said:
I will probably go for the Intel Core i9-13900KF.
Don't you use the onboard GPU for Quick Sync at all? Right now the plain K is £10 cheaper, so the onboard GPU isn't expensive. https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/cpu-...
How much value do you put on parts being relevant and upgradable for a while?
AMDs AM5 platform should last a good few years, where as 13900k is the best you’re going to get without changing motherboards again later down the line.
7950X3D is good for productivity and gaming and you’ll be able to upgrade later if you needed to. It also runs much much cooler than the i9 which might be a consideration. You’ll be limited to DDR5 but prices are coming down.
AMDs AM5 platform should last a good few years, where as 13900k is the best you’re going to get without changing motherboards again later down the line.
7950X3D is good for productivity and gaming and you’ll be able to upgrade later if you needed to. It also runs much much cooler than the i9 which might be a consideration. You’ll be limited to DDR5 but prices are coming down.
HRL said:
FourWheelDrift said:
ShinyPsyduck said:
What is a good alternative to the RTX4090? Looking for around £600 for the card.
Sapphire Nitro+ 6950XT, £630 from Ebuyer - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/M2D7YJ/sapphir...FourWheelDrift said:
HRL said:
FourWheelDrift said:
ShinyPsyduck said:
What is a good alternative to the RTX4090? Looking for around £600 for the card.
Sapphire Nitro+ 6950XT, £630 from Ebuyer - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/M2D7YJ/sapphir...Hi all,
Thank you for the great feedback. I was hoping there was going be an easy solution to picking PC parts but for now, I think I am going to read up on the new tech and see what's best for me and my budget. Once I have decided on parts I will post them here for the team's approval.
Editing software: Full Adobe Package, Some Sony products, the usual. I would say the build would need to perform well for editing and gaming is secondary.
Thank you,
ShinyPsyduck
Thank you for the great feedback. I was hoping there was going be an easy solution to picking PC parts but for now, I think I am going to read up on the new tech and see what's best for me and my budget. Once I have decided on parts I will post them here for the team's approval.
Editing software: Full Adobe Package, Some Sony products, the usual. I would say the build would need to perform well for editing and gaming is secondary.
Thank you,
ShinyPsyduck
Brainpox said:
FourWheelDrift said:
HRL said:
FourWheelDrift said:
ShinyPsyduck said:
What is a good alternative to the RTX4090? Looking for around £600 for the card.
Sapphire Nitro+ 6950XT, £630 from Ebuyer - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/M2D7YJ/sapphir...But realistically neither are going to be doing much gaming at 4K.
simonwhite2000 said:
I'd go for an i7 13700k rather than the i9 and increase spend on the gpu.
While I can claim no expertise, that was along my line of thinking (and advice I believe I should have taken myself when spec'ing my latest build).My understanding is that Adobe video will make far greater use of the GPU than the CPU.
Caveat; I've never tried Premier Pro or any similar Adobe products so, others here may know better.
In my case, running Topaz Video AI with an RTX A4000, I am finding the performance less than blistering. While the GPU is running at 80-90% the Xeon CPUs are only running at around 25%.
As for gaming, it manages Quake 3 quite well
Sorry, just not into gaming anymore really.
Goaty Bill 2 said:
In my case, running Topaz Video AI with an RTX A4000, I am finding the performance less than blistering. While the GPU is running at 80-90% the Xeon CPUs are only running at around 25%.
The impression I'm forming is that for lots of heavily GPU accelerated workloads, you need relatively few fast CPU cores to keep the GPU busy and the CPU code isn't that heavily parallelized. You may find that 25% translates to 1/4 of the Xeon's threads are at 100% and the others are idle.xeny said:
The impression I'm forming is that for lots of heavily GPU accelerated workloads, you need relatively few fast CPU cores to keep the GPU busy and the CPU code isn't that heavily parallelized. You may find that 25% translates to 1/4 of the Xeon's threads are at 100% and the others are idle.
A snapshot from Win11 Task Manager
Not really detailed enough but, you can see it's not stressing the CPUs at all while the GPU is at a lower usage than I quoted above as it is currently processing just one file. Concurrent processing two videos will push the GPU to 80%+ and the CPU to 45%.
I certainly feel I could have happily saved £500ish on CPUs while putting that towards a higher end graphics card without suffering at all on power for the Oracle databases.
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