Accidental German

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Sterillium

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22,285 posts

231 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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I've just bought a laptop, it is an HP ENVY x360.

However, like a total cretin, I failed to notice I had ordered a German QUERTZ model, rather than a UK QWERTY.

Before I send it back, is there anything simple and straightforward I could do to change it?

I wondered if I could buy some sort of silicone cover for the keyboard (crumb barrier!) with a QWERTY on it, but that doesn't seem to be a thing. I looked at changing the keys, but they seem to be around £4 EACH with no real guarantee they will fit.

The only other thing I could think of was learning German...

Skeptisk

8,083 posts

115 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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A German keyboard has all the English letters but also the special German characters. The letters are just placed slightly differently.

When I worked in Switzerland all the keyboards I used were German. It didn’t take long to get used to the different layout. When I moved back to the U.K. I made mistakes at first but soon switched back to the U.K. keyboard layout. Your only problem will be switching between the two if you have to use a normal keyboard at work but we have the same problem as our Mac was bought in Switzerland.

mmm-five

11,389 posts

290 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Just buy a cheap external QWERTY bluetooth keyboard?

andybebop

48 posts

88 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Depending on the model of X360 a complete UK keyboard should be less than £40 delivered. Removal and replacement is reasonably simple.
If you pop up the full model number or serial number I can check.

Edited by andybebop on Saturday 15th April 13:28

Sterillium

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Saturday 15th April 2023
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andybebop said:
Depending on the model of X360 a complete UK keyboard should be less than £40 delivered. Removal and replacement is reasonably simple.
If you pop up the full model number or serial number I can check.
That would be perfect.

It's a HP ENVY x360 15-ew0753ng and the MPN is 6J9G8EA#ABD - is that enough info?

andybebop

48 posts

88 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Certainly should be. I am out at the moment but I will post a reply this evening.

Sterillium

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231 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Much appreciated - thank you.

Jonquil

219 posts

19 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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I picked up a used gun safe for a mate and took some phone pics to send to him.
For a laugh, I put the caption into smy schoolboy german, meaning to say,
'Here is your shooting cabinet.'
What I actually wrote was 'Hier ist dein scheissenkabinet.'
Anyone with a smattering of german will get this instantly.

Just two vowels reversed made my mistake do the rounds, it
practically went viral.

FourWheelDrift

89,402 posts

290 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Get your screwdrivers ready - https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HP+Envy+x360+15m-bq02...

Replacement keyboard (if right model) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325231920043

captain_cynic

13,044 posts

101 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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FourWheelDrift said:
Get your screwdrivers ready - https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HP+Envy+x360+15m-bq02...

Replacement keyboard (if right model) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325231920043
Looks like a proper faff. Last time I replaced a laptop KB I just popped the top facia off and undid a few screws... granted that was a 2005 era Dell.

Before doing this, have you tried contacting the vendor to see if they'll do a swap for you, or if they'll send you a normal UK QWERTY KB you could swap out yourself? Worst thing they'll say is no and you'll be back at the above.

Is the OS the correct language?

Sterillium

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231 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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I've since realised that all their laptops are QWERTZ.

Also, there's 0% chance I will do this myself... if I can find the parts I'll give it to an IT person to do - I would only kill it.

sgrimshaw

7,389 posts

256 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Plenty of keyboard stickers on Amazon, worth a try for minimal outlay. Eg:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0725MXJ3T/ref=sspa_dk...

vaud

51,805 posts

161 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Jonquil said:
I picked up a used gun safe for a mate and took some phone pics to send to him.
For a laugh, I put the caption into smy schoolboy german, meaning to say,
'Here is your shooting cabinet.'
What I actually wrote was 'Hier ist dein scheissenkabinet.'
Anyone with a smattering of german will get this instantly.

Just two vowels reversed made my mistake do the rounds, it
practically went viral.
Similar to my error which was ask a German colleague if they were going to the Kristallnacht rather than the Christkindlesmarkt. I was multitasking at the time and don't speak much German.

Sterillium

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22,285 posts

231 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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sgrimshaw said:
Plenty of keyboard stickers on Amazon, worth a try for minimal outlay. Eg:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0725MXJ3T/ref=sspa_dk...
That might work if I can find some that work with the backlit keys.

Spare tyre

10,160 posts

136 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Sadly I’d return it
If it needs work / exchanging In 6 months time you might have to reverse your mods

Sterillium

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231 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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That might be what I end up doing. A shame though, because in all other ways it's great - I just didn't read the listing properly!

extraT

1,813 posts

156 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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You can change the keyboard setting and languages from DE > EN. Yes the Z and Y will remain the wrong way around physically, but pressing Y will display Z and vice versa. If you can touch type, it’s not a problem. If it really is a bother, then Amazon QWERTY key board stickers. Viel Glück!

extraT

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156 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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EmailAddress said:
extraT said:
You can change the keyboard setting and languages from DE > EN. Yes the Z and Y will remain the wrong way around physically, but pressing Y will display Z and vice versa. If you can touch type, it’s not a problem. If it really is a bother, then Amazon QWERTY key board stickers. Viel Glück!
Could make booking flights interesting.

One ticket to ZQN please.

fk
Honestly it’s not a big deal. I have the same laptop as the OP and actually I’m an Englishman living in Austria, so I have the exact same set up as the OP. Change the settings and touch type. In case it confuses, get keyboard stickers. It’s no biggie in my book, but I guess the OP should feel comfortable in their decision.