Open letter for a pause on the development of AI
Discussion
Elon Musk calls for pause on developing 'dangerous' AI
https://mol.im/a/11914149
What are your thoughts on this, have they been carrying out experiments that’s haven’t gone well?
There have been cases in the past where two AIs started communicating in a new language which the developers couldn’t track so pulled the plug.
Are we ready for AI ?
https://mol.im/a/11914149
What are your thoughts on this, have they been carrying out experiments that’s haven’t gone well?
There have been cases in the past where two AIs started communicating in a new language which the developers couldn’t track so pulled the plug.
Are we ready for AI ?
AI is a genuine concern and the level of AI that's on the horizon ... Musk is only too aware of the implications.
This is humanity slowly erasing itself / its culture / importance and relevance. Like lambs to the slaughter.
Dramatic? Yes. Realistic never the less. Yes.
No. We are not ready for advanced AI, and I'm not sure we ever will be - but, humanity being what it is, it's coming anyway.
This is humanity slowly erasing itself / its culture / importance and relevance. Like lambs to the slaughter.
Dramatic? Yes. Realistic never the less. Yes.
No. We are not ready for advanced AI, and I'm not sure we ever will be - but, humanity being what it is, it's coming anyway.
We are the first species in the history of this planet to be intelligent enough to potentially preserve our existence against the march of nature, disease and darwinism. Indeed in time, we may reach out across the stars to ensure that survival.
It is therefore deeply ironic that we will in fact be the architects of our own downfall, by means of engineered plague, nuclear war, or the ability to build machines and intelligences that will annihilate us.
The only solace I can find is that there should be a brief period of time before humanities eradication, when no one will care about speeding. I propose we all have a massive race from John 'O groats to lands end.
It is therefore deeply ironic that we will in fact be the architects of our own downfall, by means of engineered plague, nuclear war, or the ability to build machines and intelligences that will annihilate us.
The only solace I can find is that there should be a brief period of time before humanities eradication, when no one will care about speeding. I propose we all have a massive race from John 'O groats to lands end.
Panamax said:
zippy3x said:
The only solace I can find is that there should be a brief period of time before humanities eradication, when no one will care about speeding.
Did you mean "speeding" or "spelling"?Panamax said:
zippy3x said:
The only solace I can find is that there should be a brief period of time before humanities eradication, when no one will care about speeding.
Did you mean "speeding" or "spelling"?I'm sure you'll be happy to know, your new AI overlords will come with a spell checker and grammar checker.
The issue with AI isn’t just the ‘judgement day’ scenario. We could see th break down of employment sectors, far worst than the rise of robot manufacturing. Which will lead to economic breakdown.
Once employers realise they can chop hundreds of thousands of jobs in certain sectors there could be a breakdown in the distribution of earnings across the world. Many middle class jobs could evaporate at an alarming rate. Call centres? Gone, you will be speaking to AI. You may say ‘great’ but that’s tens of thousands of jobs. Software engineers could become redundant, it can write its own code far more efficiently than humans can.
We won’t get to a world where AI frees us to enjoy more free time. Parts of economies will implode. There will be the super rich and the poor, the middle ground will suffer, many types of white collar jobs will evaporate. This technology can out think and out produce us and will develop and grow faster than we can react.
AI and coupled to deep fake technology are scary. We won’t know who we are watching and listening to. AI will search out opportunities to replace employees at all levels.
Once employers realise they can chop hundreds of thousands of jobs in certain sectors there could be a breakdown in the distribution of earnings across the world. Many middle class jobs could evaporate at an alarming rate. Call centres? Gone, you will be speaking to AI. You may say ‘great’ but that’s tens of thousands of jobs. Software engineers could become redundant, it can write its own code far more efficiently than humans can.
We won’t get to a world where AI frees us to enjoy more free time. Parts of economies will implode. There will be the super rich and the poor, the middle ground will suffer, many types of white collar jobs will evaporate. This technology can out think and out produce us and will develop and grow faster than we can react.
AI and coupled to deep fake technology are scary. We won’t know who we are watching and listening to. AI will search out opportunities to replace employees at all levels.
Thats What She Said said:
I found this quote a tad disturbing:
Its a bit melodramatic. There are black box models and clear box models (and I guess 'grey' box models in between those extremes).Some boffins said:
Recent months have seen AI labs locked in an out-of-control race to develop and deploy ever more powerful digital minds that no one – not even their creators – can understand, predict, or reliably control
Clear box models are very easy to see what is happening - e.g. I make a model saying that weight is a + b * height, and I can easily read this and say that for every inch of height you gain, you will expect to gain b pounds. I can extend this again to have a different value of a or b for men and women and its still pretty clear as to what is going on, but it becomes a bit harder if I added lots of inputs like whether you have diabetes, your hair colour, your nationality, and the car you drive.
A black box model (like a neural net that ChatGPT use) won't have that clear working and you can not see what it is doing, only control the inputs and see what outputs you get - e.g. I am 6'0, the model would expect me to weigh 14 stone, but I can't inspect it to see how it came to that conclusion. Under the hood, it might be something like diabetic + red hair + male increase weight by height squared + 5 times age * 1 kg for every year you have been diabetic if the height is between 6'0 and 6'1, and other things for other heights. The model can give those to you, but they are so complicated that no human would get any real understanding (my example is actually a very simple one).
Its not possible to make a language model with a clear box because its too complex to write down all the interactions and inputs in any meaningful way. Neural nets are used in all sorts of things like image recognition and detecting leaks in sewers. Its fine if you don't need to know how it comes to the answer. This would typically only be a problem where you want humans to understand how the model works.
It is important to note that the development of AI has led to significant advancements in various fields such as healthcare, transportation, and finance. AI has the potential to improve our lives and solve complex problems, but it also presents some challenges, such as ethical concerns, job displacement, and bias.
It is up to society, policymakers, and experts in the field to carefully consider the risks and benefits of AI development and implement appropriate regulations and safeguards to ensure its responsible use. A pause on AI development might not be the solution, but rather a well-informed and thoughtful approach to its development and deployment could help address the challenges and realize its potential benefits.
It is up to society, policymakers, and experts in the field to carefully consider the risks and benefits of AI development and implement appropriate regulations and safeguards to ensure its responsible use. A pause on AI development might not be the solution, but rather a well-informed and thoughtful approach to its development and deployment could help address the challenges and realize its potential benefits.
Bodo said:
It is important to note that the development of AI has led to significant advancements in various fields such as healthcare, transportation, and finance. AI has the potential to improve our lives and solve complex problems, but it also presents some challenges, such as ethical concerns, job displacement, and bias.
It is up to society, policymakers, and experts in the field to carefully consider the risks and benefits of AI development and implement appropriate regulations and safeguards to ensure its responsible use. A pause on AI development might not be the solution, but rather a well-informed and thoughtful approach to its development and deployment could help address the challenges and realize its potential benefits.
Was that written by ChatGPT? It is up to society, policymakers, and experts in the field to carefully consider the risks and benefits of AI development and implement appropriate regulations and safeguards to ensure its responsible use. A pause on AI development might not be the solution, but rather a well-informed and thoughtful approach to its development and deployment could help address the challenges and realize its potential benefits.
Edited by GravelBen on Thursday 30th March 01:11
Bodo said:
It is up to society, policymakers, and experts in the field to carefully consider the risks and benefits of AI development and implement appropriate regulations and safeguards to ensure its responsible use. A pause on AI development might not be the solution, but rather a well-informed and thoughtful approach to its development and deployment could help address the challenges and realize its potential benefits.
That’s it then, we’re definitely screwed. GravelBen said:
Bodo said:
It is important to note that the development of AI has led to significant advancements in various fields such as healthcare, transportation, and finance. AI has the potential to improve our lives and solve complex problems, but it also presents some challenges, such as ethical concerns, job displacement, and bias.
It is up to society, policymakers, and experts in the field to carefully consider the risks and benefits of AI development and implement appropriate regulations and safeguards to ensure its responsible use. A pause on AI development might not be the solution, but rather a well-informed and thoughtful approach to its development and deployment could help address the challenges and realize its potential benefits.
Was that written by ChatGPT? It is up to society, policymakers, and experts in the field to carefully consider the risks and benefits of AI development and implement appropriate regulations and safeguards to ensure its responsible use. A pause on AI development might not be the solution, but rather a well-informed and thoughtful approach to its development and deployment could help address the challenges and realize its potential benefits.
Edited by GravelBen on Thursday 30th March 01:11
vdn said:
AI is a genuine concern and the level of AI that's on the horizon ... Musk is only too aware of the implications.
This is humanity slowly erasing itself / its culture / importance and relevance. Like lambs to the slaughter.
Dramatic? Yes. Realistic never the less. Yes.
No. We are not ready for advanced AI, and I'm not sure we ever will be - but, humanity being what it is, it's coming anyway.
TBF it's just what the planet ordered. I think virtually every other species on the planet would welcome a human extinction level event.This is humanity slowly erasing itself / its culture / importance and relevance. Like lambs to the slaughter.
Dramatic? Yes. Realistic never the less. Yes.
No. We are not ready for advanced AI, and I'm not sure we ever will be - but, humanity being what it is, it's coming anyway.
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