Hardware for gigabit FTTP - experiences?

Hardware for gigabit FTTP - experiences?

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donkmeister

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8,971 posts

106 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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A couple of weeks following Openreach putting new terminal blocks on my telegraph pole, FTTP is now available on the BT wholesale checker and on various ISPs. Woohoo!

I'm contemplating getting full fat 900mb, but I am aware that a lot of consumer grade devices struggle to route at full gigabit speed - the router is a bottleneck. I would rather avoid building my own pfsense box.

I'm currently using a Fritz box 7530 and have seen varying reports about its suitability for gigabit service. I'm a bit loathe to suck it and see without a backup plan.

Has anyone tried any routers and found they definitely do (or do not) route sufficiently quickly to saturate their connection? Fritz would be good as I already have mesh repeaters and quite like the interface.

QuartzDad

2,340 posts

128 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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When I had the 900 service the BT Smart Hub 2 was quite happy delivering the full bandwidth.

Alorotom

12,101 posts

193 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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When I was with BT FTTP I used their hub and it did indeed operate at full capacity.

I am now using TalkTalk and have Eero 6 hubs that can also handle the full 900mbs (the old Eero units were limited to 250mb (2.4ghz) and 600mb (5ghz)

devnull

3,787 posts

163 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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I mean, i went all out and wired my house for ethernet, fitted the latest Unifi 6E access points which all route back to a Unifi UDM pro.

Wireless wise you aren't going to get gigabit, but I have it wired in rooms where it matters and it's glorious.

donkmeister

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8,971 posts

106 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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devnull said:
I mean, i went all out and wired my house for ethernet, fitted the latest Unifi 6E access points which all route back to a Unifi UDM pro.

Wireless wise you aren't going to get gigabit, but I have it wired in rooms where it matters and it's glorious.
Are ye implyin' I'm trying to use WiFi for proper work or summit? biggrin

Fortunately the WiFi here is only for things like phones and the visitors' network. Everything that needs a proper connection is on Cat6 (euro modules at the wall, and patch panels back in the network closets... Plural biglaugh )... All installed before I had a girl living here, of course. Looked at Unifi and like the gear but couldn't quite justify the cost as I had other projects that needed money too.

I've found that Zen use the same Fritz for their 500 and 900mbps packages so should be fine to route at full speed.

Update on the internet connection: Mrs D questioned the need for 900mbps, so we compromised on 500mbps and I ordered it before she can change her mind. Still approx 6x what I'm getting on VDSL2.

Might be the first house on the street with FTTP... An epic tail I can recount in decades to come with my grandchildren. biggrin

Captain_Morgan

1,243 posts

65 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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As ever, what’s the use case, is 1Gbs a requirement or a nice to have?

How often will you require those kind of speed / how often do you have multiple concurrent streams that approach that speed?

Not trying to piss on anyones chips but it’s worth considering if the 1Gbs internet throughput hill is worth the battle to get there.

Digger

15,105 posts

197 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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900/900 here with G.Network & with their Nokia router I get 930/930 running Speedtest on my PC.

donkmeister

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8,971 posts

106 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Captain_Morgan said:
As ever, what’s the use case, is 1Gbs a requirement or a nice to have?

How often will you require those kind of speed / how often do you have multiple concurrent streams that approach that speed?

Not trying to piss on anyones chips but it’s worth considering if the 1Gbs internet throughput hill is worth the battle to get there.
Quite... I can't justify it, but it was more that it's nice to have when you buy a massive download and see it coming through the pipes at 100MB per second. I'm sure that ~50MB per second through my 500Mbps connection will still be quite gratifying when I see it. biggrin

Captain_Morgan

1,243 posts

65 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Pfsense boxes are easy as even I can build one wink

~£200 from Amazon with intel 2.5gbe i225-v nics (may need a ssd & mem)

Or/& tp-link Omada (unifi copy) aio fw/router/poe x8 + 4 non switch/controller ~£180 & add accesspoints & Roberts your mother’s brother.

somouk

1,425 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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The box that comes with the connection will be more than capabie of doing the 900/900. Do you have any specific reason to change it?

Most struggle with pushing the speed around the home as they rely on the built in wifi or cheapo range extenders instead of putting cables in.


jonsp

932 posts

162 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Moved house just before xmas and signed with talktalk 900 meg, can't fault it, speeds consistently >900 down >`100 up. Only issue was they couldn't install until mid Jan, phoned them and threatened to cancel if they couldn't do this quicker. They said it's down to openreach not us, presumably everyone wants full fibre as it comes on stream. We'll give you 1st 3 months free. OK done

In truth it's overkill for what I need but if its available may as well have it. They sent me 2 Amazon Eero hubs, when the openreach guy came round he said no idea why they sent 2 you only need 1, these are >£100 I'd stick one of them on ebay if I were you. Being cautious decided to keep it in case first one packs up.

Assuming my experience is not atypical would recommend.