There’s fibre outside - how do I get FTTP?
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I’m on BT broadband - there’s FTTC a few hundred metres away and we get for 14-50Mb (nearer 14)
I’ve regularly checked the fibre checkers which say fibre not available in my area.
Openreach are doing work outside so I asked if they were putting fibre in - they were very helpful and said no, they were repairing a copper cable but did show me that there’s a fibre line running in an access manhole near the house. They said I needed to find out where the BCD/PCP/ABC/DNA is - I forget the correct acronym- but apparently there should be one within a few hundred metres from which a house can be connected.
Does anybody here know who I contact to see if I can be connected please? All the fibre searches I’ve undertaken are saying not available.
Many thanks
I’ve regularly checked the fibre checkers which say fibre not available in my area.
Openreach are doing work outside so I asked if they were putting fibre in - they were very helpful and said no, they were repairing a copper cable but did show me that there’s a fibre line running in an access manhole near the house. They said I needed to find out where the BCD/PCP/ABC/DNA is - I forget the correct acronym- but apparently there should be one within a few hundred metres from which a house can be connected.
Does anybody here know who I contact to see if I can be connected please? All the fibre searches I’ve undertaken are saying not available.
Many thanks
A fibre cable in a chamber nearby is almost completely irrelevant in terms of whether you can get an FTTP service. Most of the fibre serving a city runs about 50m from my house and I can’t get FTTP.
FTTP requires specific infrastructure to be built out to service individual properties.
FTTP requires specific infrastructure to be built out to service individual properties.
You need to find the chap I spoke to once from openreach. I rang them and said the house down the road could get fttp according to their website but mine couldn't.
After a long chat he ticked a box in their system to say my house was fttp capable so I could place an order.
He said don't worry, if you place an order they have to do it.
Bloke turned up to connect me, said where's the fibre? Me .... Nfi
In the end they ran it 200 yards through a field and bingo !!!
After a long chat he ticked a box in their system to say my house was fttp capable so I could place an order.
He said don't worry, if you place an order they have to do it.
Bloke turned up to connect me, said where's the fibre? Me .... Nfi
In the end they ran it 200 yards through a field and bingo !!!
Many thanks all.
Thanks camel_landy
I put my details in and I see that only FTTP on demand is available. My research suggests that’s hugely expensive to install and rent so that’s the end of that.
Hugely frustrating as it passes 1m from my front gate.
Don’t know why they aren’t offering FTTP if the fibre is here- I had believed there was no fibre out here in the sticks and that was the reason but no.
Thanks camel_landy
I put my details in and I see that only FTTP on demand is available. My research suggests that’s hugely expensive to install and rent so that’s the end of that.
Hugely frustrating as it passes 1m from my front gate.
Don’t know why they aren’t offering FTTP if the fibre is here- I had believed there was no fibre out here in the sticks and that was the reason but no.
Miserablegit said:
Many thanks all.
Thanks camel_landy
I put my details in and I see that only FTTP on demand is available. My research suggests that’s hugely expensive to install and rent so that’s the end of that.
Hugely frustrating as it passes 1m from my front gate.
Don’t know why they aren’t offering FTTP if the fibre is here- I had believed there was no fibre out here in the sticks and that was the reason but no.
As has been said just because a fibre runs past it doesn’t mean that it’s a domestic connection fibre.Thanks camel_landy
I put my details in and I see that only FTTP on demand is available. My research suggests that’s hugely expensive to install and rent so that’s the end of that.
Hugely frustrating as it passes 1m from my front gate.
Don’t know why they aren’t offering FTTP if the fibre is here- I had believed there was no fibre out here in the sticks and that was the reason but no.
That said have you investigated the fttp on demand option yourself or are you working off anecdotal reports on cost?
If it’s a suitable fibre & ducting as close as you say you could find the costs surprisingly reasonable, a friend of mines were in the low hundreds range as someone else had ordered it & the run went past his property. It is worth asking the question rather than assuming.
Failing that if a speed increase is required have you considered the 4/5g mobile offerings or starlink?
I had a sort of similar issue with fttp available to some houses in my street but not others, for reasons that were hard to fathom. I spoke to zen, who spoke to Openreach, who sorted it. Zen were excellent - worked to find a way around the “computer says no” mentality. It took quite a while - about three months, but they got there in the end. There are cheaper ISPs but zen worth every penny to me.
Miserablegit said:
They said I needed to find out where the BCD/PCP/ABC/DNA is - I forget the correct acronym- but apparently there should be one within a few hundred metres from which a house can be connected.
That'll be the CBT, a Connectorised Block Terminal. It's a big black box, more of a tube really but if your street is pole fed then it'll be sat at the top of your nearest telegraph pole. But you've already said there is fibre in a duct at the front of your property in which case the CBT will likely be inside an underground chamber nearby. Look for a big rectangular concrete lid with BT written on it but probably best you don't try and lift it to check inside.This might shed light on any other options
https://bidb.uk/
Also iirc openreach will direct you to 3rd parties if investigating fttp od, if you google fttp I’d providers you can cut out the openreach conversation.
https://bidb.uk/
Also iirc openreach will direct you to 3rd parties if investigating fttp od, if you google fttp I’d providers you can cut out the openreach conversation.
Miserablegit said:
Many thanks all- all internet searches are indicating FTTP is not available in this area so I’ll brace myself and call BT during the week.
The build programme is quite long. Openreach recently installed the new fibre access units on the telegraph poles round here, complete with the chunky armoured fibres to them via existing ducts. However, the Openreach checker is currently saying "by December 2026" for FTTP.So I literally have an FTTP connection point at the end of my drive and a catenary wire from there to my house, but I cannot order FTTP yet.
I understand from some googling that it is one of those situations that can suddenly move very quickly, some people see the units appear and can order FTTP within a week or two. No such luck here!
donkmeister said:
The build programme is quite long. Openreach recently installed the new fibre access units on the telegraph poles round here, complete with the chunky armoured fibres to them via existing ducts. However, the Openreach checker is currently saying "by December 2026" for FTTP.
So I literally have an FTTP connection point at the end of my drive and a catenary wire from there to my house, but I cannot order FTTP yet.
I understand from some googling that it is one of those situations that can suddenly move very quickly, some people see the units appear and can order FTTP within a week or two. No such luck here!
They build out the whole network segment and then enable it so depending how big an exchange you are on that can take weeks or months until it becomes available for you to buy.So I literally have an FTTP connection point at the end of my drive and a catenary wire from there to my house, but I cannot order FTTP yet.
I understand from some googling that it is one of those situations that can suddenly move very quickly, some people see the units appear and can order FTTP within a week or two. No such luck here!
jurbie said:
That'll be the CBT, a Connectorised Block Terminal. It's a big black box, more of a tube really but if your street is pole fed then it'll be sat at the top of your nearest telegraph pole. But you've already said there is fibre in a duct at the front of your property in which case the CBT will likely be inside an underground chamber nearby. Look for a big rectangular concrete lid with BT written on it but probably best you don't try and lift it to check inside.
PCP - Primary Connection Point - The Cabinet - big green box where the fibre ports live, if the cabinet hasn't been updated yet then there's unlikely to be fibre there, some times there's a second cabinet beside an existing one.Many thanks all-
No FTTP until 2025- there’s fibre outside but no chance of connecting to it.
I’m paying £70/month for a 50Mb connection which is rarely 50Mb and a phone line I rarely use.
I called Bt today as speeds had dropped again- they confirmed no fibre connection is available yet and have indicated I can get a cheaper package at about £50/month so the call was worth it.
No FTTP until 2025- there’s fibre outside but no chance of connecting to it.
I’m paying £70/month for a 50Mb connection which is rarely 50Mb and a phone line I rarely use.
I called Bt today as speeds had dropped again- they confirmed no fibre connection is available yet and have indicated I can get a cheaper package at about £50/month so the call was worth it.
Miserablegit said:
Many thanks all-
No FTTP until 2025- there’s fibre outside but no chance of connecting to it.
I’m paying £70/month for a 50Mb connection which is rarely 50Mb and a phone line I rarely use.
I called Bt today as speeds had dropped again- they confirmed no fibre connection is available yet and have indicated I can get a cheaper package at about £50/month so the call was worth it.
No decent 4G coverage in the area? No FTTP until 2025- there’s fibre outside but no chance of connecting to it.
I’m paying £70/month for a 50Mb connection which is rarely 50Mb and a phone line I rarely use.
I called Bt today as speeds had dropped again- they confirmed no fibre connection is available yet and have indicated I can get a cheaper package at about £50/month so the call was worth it.
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