power supply plug replacement ..... will this one be ok?

power supply plug replacement ..... will this one be ok?

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markbigears

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2,322 posts

275 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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Or will it blow the record player up?

Original is on the left .... eBay replacement on right, has slightly different specs and i've no idea if this is ok to use as this is the closest i can find online.

Any help appreciated. It's for a ION AIR LP record player.






JimbobVFR

2,722 posts

150 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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That's absolutely fine.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,201 posts

171 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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I note that both of them have a fake “CE” mark. The spacing is too close for a genuine CE mark - what these have is a “China Export” mark, which means absolutely nothing in terms of safety. It’s a masquerade that Chinese manufacturers use to pretend to unwitting western buyers that their products have been tested to CE standards when they haven’t.

https://ada.pt/en/cemarking2/

markbigears

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2,322 posts

275 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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Thanks both, appreciate the help.
I’ll order it for the boy so he can play his vinyl again.
Mike, this was bought from John Lewis

Edited by markbigears on Thursday 9th February 20:21

anonymous-user

60 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
I note that both of them have a fake “CE” mark. The spacing is too close for a genuine CE mark - what these have is a “China Export” mark, which means absolutely nothing in terms of safety. It’s a masquerade that Chinese manufacturers use to pretend to unwitting western buyers that their products have been tested to CE standards when they haven’t.

https://ada.pt/en/cemarking2/
Learn something new every day, very interesting.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,201 posts

171 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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markbigears said:
Mike, this was bought from John Lewis
Was it indeed?! eek

So the masquerade is fooling the buyers of major chain stores, as well as their customers. I wonder what JL’s policy is on buying electrical goods - I wouldn’t be surprised if their purchasing rules specify that everything must be CE marked (or equivalent, whatever that is in the post-Brexit world).

It’s something that needs to be more widely known.

gifdy

2,073 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
markbigears said:
Mike, this was bought from John Lewis
Was it indeed?! eek

So the masquerade is fooling the buyers of major chain stores, as well as their customers. I wonder what JL’s policy is on buying electrical goods - I wouldn’t be surprised if their purchasing rules specify that everything must be CE marked (or equivalent, whatever that is in the post-Brexit world).

It’s something that needs to be more widely known.
You can still uses CE mark in UK until end of 2024. It was meant to expire end of 2022 but they’ve extended the deadline. I believe the requirement will eventually become UKCA.

If that plug from John Lewis doesn’t have a proper CE mark then they’re breaking the law.

OutInTheShed

8,862 posts

32 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
I note that both of them have a fake “CE” mark. The spacing is too close for a genuine CE mark - what these have is a “China Export” mark, which means absolutely nothing in terms of safety. It’s a masquerade that Chinese manufacturers use to pretend to unwitting western buyers that their products have been tested to CE standards when they haven’t.

https://ada.pt/en/cemarking2/
That's not entirely true.
Something of an Urban Myth.

The product on the right has a TUV mark.
Lots of Chinese products have the C and the E too close together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking

The Chinese putting the right mark on things would not really guarantee anything very different from them putting on a slightly different mark.

A lot of products these days carry so many approval marks that the poor bloke who designs the label tends to bash them into minimum space.

babelfish

963 posts

213 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
That's not entirely true.
Something of an Urban Myth.

The product on the right has a TUV mark.
Lots of Chinese products have the C and the E too close together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking

The Chinese putting the right mark on things would not really guarantee anything very different from them putting on a slightly different mark.

A lot of products these days carry so many approval marks that the poor bloke who designs the label tends to bash them into minimum space.
Not sure i follow this. Does one have markings making it appear to be legal and one have markings that are obviously non confirmatory?

Which is the TUV mark?

What should I be looking for if buying something similar?

Thanks

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,201 posts

171 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
That's not entirely true.
Something of an Urban Myth.
Not according to the CE Marking Association it’s not…

https://www.cemarkingassociation.co.uk/ce-marking-...

OutInTheShed said:
The Chinese putting the right mark on things would not really guarantee anything very different from them putting on a slightly different mark.
Well that’s certainly true!

Edited by Dr Mike Oxgreen on Friday 10th February 10:47