I want a small smart phone

[cliffords]

I have a Moto G7 play. It's a few years old and drains the battery fast now and the screen keeps freezing. It does everything I want it to do and I can easily put it in my trouser pocket .
I go into mobile phone shops and they are all huge . Crazy sizes unless I want an I phone and I don't .
I don't need a contract I will buy the phone. I don't want to spend more than £200. I really can't find a smart phone that is this size ?

Any suggestions please. Thanks

[CubanPete]

Sony Xperia Compact

[cliffords]

Thank you for that suggestion , its better albeit still quite large 15 cm tall.
Is there any other thoughts for a smaller one ?

Thanks

[James_N]

Try the Cubot pocket

Had mine 12 months now and its ideal. Camera isn't anything to write home about, but it does everything i need it to do.

[MesoForm]

The GSMarena phone finder tool is useful for this, it allows you to search by height, etc.:
https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?

Your G7 Play is 147mm high (according to the same site), setting that as the max height and released in the past few years gives you a few options:
https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=202...

[cliffords]

Excellent thank you both

[CubanPete]

cliffords said:

Thank you for that suggestion , its better albeit still quite large 15 cm tall.
Is there any other thoughts for a smaller one ?

Thanks

It's just under 13cm, and but feels much much smaller than a 15cm phone (that the regular Xperia is).

[Baldchap]

Latest crop of foldy phones are good. I have a Flip 4 that fits very happily in a pocket but unfolds to normal smartphone size. Best of both worlds.

ETA didn't read over budget.

Edited by Baldchap on Saturday 4th February 18:38

[bearman68]

Same criteria here. I ended up with a Cubot King Kong 2. It's not much bigger than a traditional old mobile. The battery life is pretty poor, but it works fine. The one thing no-one mentioned is that it has excellent reception. I like it.

[g4ry13]

I'm also after a small smart phone but on a bit of a larger budget. I've sadly resigned myself to the fact that i'm probably going to end up buying something with a screen >6 inches and much larger than I want. The phones these days seem so flawed.

The S22 is similar size to my current phone although it's pricey and has small battery capacity. I was impressed by the size of the iphone mini but am not a fan of Apple or the price! Pixel 6A is meant to be a bit more compact but still felt like an unwieldy brick compared to my current phone.

Asus do a small phone but their phones are also pricey.

[Amateurish]

I just bought a Asus ZenFone 8 for £250 it is 148mm tall.

[Ambleton]

There is something about small phones.

I replaced my adding Samsung S10e last year with a pixel 6 and it's bloody massive and weighs a tonne. I don't actually like it that much. The camera is no better (to my surprise actually), and the only redeeming feature I've really found is the longer battery life.

My wife also replaced her aging iphone8 with a iPhone 13 mini. What a revelation. Lightweight, thin, feels lovely in the hand and you can reach all the screen with your thumb. Slips in the pocket easy and doesn't feel like it's trying to pull your trousers down (apart from the price)

Hopefully more manufactures bring out smaller, high spec phones. It's getting to be a joke...

[Alorotom]

Ambleton said:

There is something about small phones.

I replaced my adding Samsung S10e last year with a pixel 6 and it's bloody massive and weighs a tonne. I don't actually like it that much. The camera is no better (to my surprise actually), and the only redeeming feature I've really found is the longer battery life.

My wife also replaced her aging iphone8 with a iPhone 13 mini. What a revelation. Lightweight, thin, feels lovely in the hand and you can reach all the screen with your thumb. Slips in the pocket easy and doesn't feel like it's trying to pull your trousers down (apart from the price)

Hopefully more manufactures bring out smaller, high spec phones. It's getting to be a joke...

They won't. There isn't the mass market appeal. The market effused that they wanted a small iPhone so the mini was introduced with the 12 and then 13 and then dropped in favour of the 14 Plus - people just didn't buy them in the volumes that were expected.

I get for some there is a need, but its nowhere near a marketable majority to make them viable (certainly for iPhones anyway).

Supposedly the 13mini accounted for just 3% of iPhone 13 sales(!) - https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/10/there-is-no-i...

[ThunderSpook]

Alorotom said:

They won't. There isn't the mass market appeal. The market effused that they wanted a small iPhone so the mini was introduced with the 12 and then 13 and then dropped in favour of the 14 Plus - people just didn't buy them in the volumes that were expected.

I get for some there is a need, but its nowhere near a marketable majority to make them viable (certainly for iPhones anyway).

Supposedly the 13mini accounted for just 3% of iPhone 13 sales(!) - https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/10/there-is-no-i...

It’s extremely frustrating. What Apple didn’t seem to understand is that those wanting the iPhone 12 and 13 mini are coming from an iPhone SE, which was a £400 phone, and they’re presented with a £750 replacement option. That’s why nobody bought them. I bought a 13 mini but then that’s because I really really didn’t want a bigger phone.

If it had been a £400 small iPhone it would have sold by the bucketload.

[cliffords]

Amateurish said:

I just bought a Asus ZenFone 8 for £250 it is 148mm tall.

That looks good . I can only find for £300. Can you blet me know where you got it for £250. Thanks

[Teddy Lop]

g4ry13 said:

I'm also after a small smart phone but on a bit of a larger budget. I've sadly resigned myself to the fact that i'm probably going to end up buying something with a screen >6 inches and much larger than I want. The phones these days seem so flawed.

The S22 is similar size to my current phone although it's pricey and has small battery capacity. I was impressed by the size of the iphone mini but am not a fan of Apple or the price! Pixel 6A is meant to be a bit more compact but still felt like an unwieldy brick compared to my current phone.

Asus do a small phone but their phones are also pricey.

I know right. Asus is about the best compromise but I'm not taking a £500 phone on a building site (or see any need for a 500 squid phone at all!)

Why does no-one make a small screen, big battery phone? It'd be quite easy to mod an existing unit just by making them a couple of mm thicker and offering alongside.

Currently have a moto g9 power (6000mAh) that you can hammer all day and still have the battery half full when you get home, or alternatively use lightly at a festival etc and it lasts days, and it's so liberating when you see all these people in 2023 FFS flapping about charging their phone in the middle of a day...

And now Motorola seem to be discontinuing the 6 amp batterys? Does nobody else really want this? like so much we have the glorious choice of a billion versions of the same kind of thing.

[TX1]

Last year wanted to replace my old Samsung ace4 which was crap and slow however I liked the fact that it was tiny and could fit anywhere so kept putting off buying a new one, ended up buying the only smallish Samsung I could find which was a refurbished samsung galaxy s10e for £200, looks brand new and does what I need.

[popeyewhite]

CubanPete said:

Sony Xperia Compact

I have one. Very good camera. I did lots of research OP because I hate large phones and the Sony came out top in the smaller phones category. IMO anyway.

[MesoForm]

Unfortunately the people who talk about phones on internet forums are much more enthusiastic about small phones than the general phone buying public so those of us who want small phones are scraping around seeing what's available. It's been the case for a while now - when my Sony Z3 Compact (127mm) gave up the ghost I was after something small, relatively high spec and waterproof. The only options were the Sony Z5 Compact (127mm) and Apple's iPhone 7 (138mm), as my Sony just died I swapped over to Apple.
Wasn't a whole bunch of choice when I changed again 2 years ago so I've now got the iPhone 12 mini (132mm), I got one with a friends and family discount so the price was more similar to the mid-range Android phones.

No idea what I'll get when this one breaks, Apple seem to be keeping their phones smaller but they're still getting bigger and bigger (iPhone 14 is 147mm) and of course you're paying a lot of money for Apple phones and there are plenty of other things not to like about them.

(apologies to the OP for talking about Apple phones, I thought someone might find this little aside interesting)

[untakenname]

The Google 6A is a pretty small phone, it's a shame Google won't put the tech of the larger flagship into the smaller form factor.