Accurate list of dates for BT Full Fibre installs?
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Sorry to jump on the thread but does anyone know about any plans for exchange only lines? We have 18mbps down and 1 up which makes on demand a struggle.
There is no Virgin in the area. Trooli have installed FTTP in lots of places but not for those with EO lines.
I've tried 4G but found it slow looking up DNS. Maybe if 5G ever gets here, that'll solve the problem.
Thanks.
There is no Virgin in the area. Trooli have installed FTTP in lots of places but not for those with EO lines.
I've tried 4G but found it slow looking up DNS. Maybe if 5G ever gets here, that'll solve the problem.
Thanks.
The teacher said:
Sorry to jump on the thread but does anyone know about any plans for exchange only lines? We have 18mbps down and 1 up which makes on demand a struggle.
There is no Virgin in the area. Trooli have installed FTTP in lots of places but not for those with EO lines.
I've tried 4G but found it slow looking up DNS. Maybe if 5G ever gets here, that'll solve the problem.
Thanks.
Can’t help with exchange lines but this site might give a insight into what providers are in the area & what 4/5G mobile providers might give a good signal.There is no Virgin in the area. Trooli have installed FTTP in lots of places but not for those with EO lines.
I've tried 4G but found it slow looking up DNS. Maybe if 5G ever gets here, that'll solve the problem.
Thanks.
https://bidb.uk/
Plus there’s always the option of starlink satellite internet connectivity.
I found it took about 12 months from seeing the fibres being installed along my road to it finally being available to order an installation date.
One thing to bear in mind is that if you sign up with various ISPs (like I did) to inform you once they are taking orders, is that they will not bother to do that. I did that with both my current ISP (Zen) and also BT Internet, and neither actually sent me said promised email. Also, I read in a PC magazine, where the author had also said he'd registered his intertest in FFTP, and equally, none of those ISP actually informed him either.
One thing to bear in mind is that if you sign up with various ISPs (like I did) to inform you once they are taking orders, is that they will not bother to do that. I did that with both my current ISP (Zen) and also BT Internet, and neither actually sent me said promised email. Also, I read in a PC magazine, where the author had also said he'd registered his intertest in FFTP, and equally, none of those ISP actually informed him either.
I'm in a similar situation - BT exchange is planned on upgrade, no date, no virgin in area - could have a custom install for £20k+. Moved to Starlink 6 months ago, and really pleased that we did.
Gone from 10 Mbps down, 1 Mbps up (two people using Teams video at the same time pretty much unbearable), to 200 Mbps down, 50 Mbps up in general.
Today is a "slow" day, only 120 Mbps down, 30 Mbps up when tested a few minutes ago.
Gone from 10 Mbps down, 1 Mbps up (two people using Teams video at the same time pretty much unbearable), to 200 Mbps down, 50 Mbps up in general.
Today is a "slow" day, only 120 Mbps down, 30 Mbps up when tested a few minutes ago.
snuffy said:
I found it took about 12 months from seeing the fibres being installed along my road to it finally being available to order an installation date.
One thing to bear in mind is that if you sign up with various ISPs (like I did) to inform you once they are taking orders, is that they will not bother to do that. I did that with both my current ISP (Zen) and also BT Internet, and neither actually sent me said promised email. Also, I read in a PC magazine, where the author had also said he'd registered his intertest in FFTP, and equally, none of those ISP actually informed him either.
Maybe it made a difference as I was already a BT customer, but once they got into gear I was little short of bombarded with offers from BT to switch to FTTP from FTTC.One thing to bear in mind is that if you sign up with various ISPs (like I did) to inform you once they are taking orders, is that they will not bother to do that. I did that with both my current ISP (Zen) and also BT Internet, and neither actually sent me said promised email. Also, I read in a PC magazine, where the author had also said he'd registered his intertest in FFTP, and equally, none of those ISP actually informed him either.
I understand they were keen to get people off copper but I seem to recall reading they've rowed back on that somewhat.
Sheepshanks said:
Maybe it made a difference as I was already a BT customer, but once they got into gear I was little short of bombarded with offers from BT to switch to FTTP from FTTC.
I understand they were keen to get people off copper but I seem to recall reading they've rowed back on that somewhat.
Maybe that does make a difference then ? I only found out by chance one evening. I just happened to stick my number into BT's site again and up popped the "now available" message and I almost fell off my pew !I understand they were keen to get people off copper but I seem to recall reading they've rowed back on that somewhat.
I just looked at old emails and I got one fromOpenreach, as I'd registed with them, telling me Fibre was coing to my street - that was early May 20. I think they'd already started by them, but there was some suggestion they'd got going earlier in our village as some places had chased them away due to lockdown.
Then another at the end of June from Openreach saying it was available. Then statred getting stuff through the post from BT.
Early 21 there are emails every couple of weeks from BT imploring me to change.
Then another at the end of June from Openreach saying it was available. Then statred getting stuff through the post from BT.
Early 21 there are emails every couple of weeks from BT imploring me to change.
Are Openreach putting fibre in to the premise for everybody then?
I’m on standard broadband (8 down, 1 up if I’m lucky). City fibre have recently run their fibre along the end of the street but not yet within the street so have no idea how long it will take them to do that.
It’s like being in the dark ages lol
I’m on standard broadband (8 down, 1 up if I’m lucky). City fibre have recently run their fibre along the end of the street but not yet within the street so have no idea how long it will take them to do that.
It’s like being in the dark ages lol
They are working to equip all the exchanges for FTTP which will make it possible to connect properties with an existing ducted or overhead cable route that makes it relatively easy to replace copper with fibre. However when you start looking at outlying properties on more antiquated connections usually buried copper cables miles long (serving single or several properties) it gets very expensive.
Therefore you'll see widespread conversion to FTTP but there will always be remote properties that still can't get it easily/cheaply.
There are some rural projects which are managing to do this more cost effectively but it tends to involve getting landowners buy-in so that ducts can be installed around the edges of fields at much less cost than the existing formal process that e.g. OpenReach would have to go through.
To give some real world comparisons at my last house which sat in open countryside 2km from my local exchange, OpenReach wanted £112k to install fibre which involved replacing about 1km of buried cable with ducting. They then re-quoted at £50k to do the job by installing new poles and overhead lines instead. These were leased line surveys but the fundamental work requirement would be the same for FTTP.
At my new house which sits on the edge of a small town I have a ducted route all the way to the exchange and as there is no existing FTTP provision here a custom install was in the order of £5k and half of that was for the fibre itself because there isn't any already established anywhere on that route.
The difference is that, in the next few years the new location will have OpenReach FTTP and at least one, if not two Alt Nets with their own infrastructure built by duct sharing, just like most other small towns.
The old location in the sticks, I'd be very surprised if it had fibre even in 5 years time because it involves quite a lot of physical work and cost to deliver a service to 3 properties. It would require substantial subsidy or an alternative approach whereby the landowner lets somebody mole-plough a duct for a few grand where OpenReach previously wanted >£100k
CityFibre going past the end of your street is certainly a promising sign.
Therefore you'll see widespread conversion to FTTP but there will always be remote properties that still can't get it easily/cheaply.
There are some rural projects which are managing to do this more cost effectively but it tends to involve getting landowners buy-in so that ducts can be installed around the edges of fields at much less cost than the existing formal process that e.g. OpenReach would have to go through.
To give some real world comparisons at my last house which sat in open countryside 2km from my local exchange, OpenReach wanted £112k to install fibre which involved replacing about 1km of buried cable with ducting. They then re-quoted at £50k to do the job by installing new poles and overhead lines instead. These were leased line surveys but the fundamental work requirement would be the same for FTTP.
At my new house which sits on the edge of a small town I have a ducted route all the way to the exchange and as there is no existing FTTP provision here a custom install was in the order of £5k and half of that was for the fibre itself because there isn't any already established anywhere on that route.
The difference is that, in the next few years the new location will have OpenReach FTTP and at least one, if not two Alt Nets with their own infrastructure built by duct sharing, just like most other small towns.
The old location in the sticks, I'd be very surprised if it had fibre even in 5 years time because it involves quite a lot of physical work and cost to deliver a service to 3 properties. It would require substantial subsidy or an alternative approach whereby the landowner lets somebody mole-plough a duct for a few grand where OpenReach previously wanted >£100k
CityFibre going past the end of your street is certainly a promising sign.
Edited by theboss on Sunday 1st January 11:37
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