Removing BT apparatus
Discussion
We are changing our Broadband provider.
The new provider runs their own cable from the telegraph pole to our home and then into the house. At that point BTs line and the strange 1930s contraption that it connects to on the fascia board are redundant.
I understand that BT charge for removing their own equipment. (They also want their old router back!)
Not really wanting 2 cables running overhead to our house is there any reason to keep the old BT cable?
The new provider runs their own cable from the telegraph pole to our home and then into the house. At that point BTs line and the strange 1930s contraption that it connects to on the fascia board are redundant.
I understand that BT charge for removing their own equipment. (They also want their old router back!)
Not really wanting 2 cables running overhead to our house is there any reason to keep the old BT cable?
We are also in a 1930s house now with an ugly cluster of 2x BT cables and one fibre draped down the front (2nd BT line is for next door). I’d love to get rid of the unnecessary cable but the fibre is owned by one company and not leased to anyone else at present so literally the only provider I can use. If they turn to s
t or charge ridiculous sums at the end of the contract then I need some way to drop back.
t or charge ridiculous sums at the end of the contract then I need some way to drop back. For every telephone installation, there's a set point where the providers equipment ends and he user or users utility company starts.
For phones, it's known as the NTTP/NTE. ( for gas /electric its the meter . For water its the stop valve)
With BT and VM, its a 13amp sized box on the wall with the name/logo on it.
After that point you can easily and safely take off their cables. Before that point, I'd be wary and if you return to one whos cables you've cut, the installer might /might not decide its a new instal and charge.
For phones, it's known as the NTTP/NTE. ( for gas /electric its the meter . For water its the stop valve)
With BT and VM, its a 13amp sized box on the wall with the name/logo on it.
After that point you can easily and safely take off their cables. Before that point, I'd be wary and if you return to one whos cables you've cut, the installer might /might not decide its a new instal and charge.
jmn said:
We are changing our Broadband provider.
The new provider runs their own cable from the telegraph pole to our home and then into the house. At that point BTs line and the strange 1930s contraption that it connects to on the fascia board are redundant.
I understand that BT charge for removing their own equipment. (They also want their old router back!)
Not really wanting 2 cables running overhead to our house is there any reason to keep the old BT cable?
If you had that router before 13 December 2019 then you own it outright.The new provider runs their own cable from the telegraph pole to our home and then into the house. At that point BTs line and the strange 1930s contraption that it connects to on the fascia board are redundant.
I understand that BT charge for removing their own equipment. (They also want their old router back!)
Not really wanting 2 cables running overhead to our house is there any reason to keep the old BT cable?
dickymint said:
If you had that router before 13 December 2019 then you own it outright.
Yeah, when I quit BT TV the person I called to cancel implied that I should send the Humax PVR box back but I'd had it for maybe 4-5 years or longer and the original deal clearly said you owned it after the initial 18 month (or whatever it was) contract period was up.I then kept getting emails about it but when I read them carefully, they were basically citing 'electrical recycling' guidelines (buried in the text), not an oblilgation to return BT property (which was the impression they were seeking to create). Sneaky, I think they were looking to recondition the old Humax boxes and sell them on, they are actually decent enough twin tuner Freeview PVRs that don't require BT TV membership to work.
BT TV was actually a decent enough service at the start (especially given you got a nice PVR with it, for free) but eventually they gutted it and pushed the price up for what remained.
Lucas Ayde said:
I then kept getting emails about it but when I read them carefully, they were basically citing 'electrical recycling' guidelines (buried in the text), not an oblilgation to return BT property (which was the impression they were seeking to create). Sneaky, I think they were looking to recondition the old Humax boxes and sell them on, they are actually decent enough twin tuner Freeview PVRs that don't require BT TV membership to work.
Massively unlikely. It's more that they are legally required to give you the option of recycling your old kit.https://www.gov.uk/electricalwaste-producer-suppli...
deckster said:
Lucas Ayde said:
I then kept getting emails about it but when I read them carefully, they were basically citing 'electrical recycling' guidelines (buried in the text), not an oblilgation to return BT property (which was the impression they were seeking to create). Sneaky, I think they were looking to recondition the old Humax boxes and sell them on, they are actually decent enough twin tuner Freeview PVRs that don't require BT TV membership to work.
Massively unlikely. It's more that they are legally required to give you the option of recycling your old kit.https://www.gov.uk/electricalwaste-producer-suppli...
we’ve had a new FTTP connection installed at work
a new fibre line blown through the ducting and then spliced into the server room
when I asked the open reach guy about the old copper going into the Distribution Point, he said in a few years (after the PSTN switch off, and all FTTP changes are complete) that BT will go and start pulling out the old copper lines.
Probably a lot of money for recycling when melted down
So leave it a bit, and it’ll all be done for you
a new fibre line blown through the ducting and then spliced into the server room
when I asked the open reach guy about the old copper going into the Distribution Point, he said in a few years (after the PSTN switch off, and all FTTP changes are complete) that BT will go and start pulling out the old copper lines.
Probably a lot of money for recycling when melted down
So leave it a bit, and it’ll all be done for you
Man-At-Arms said:
we’ve had a new FTTP connection installed at work
a new fibre line blown through the ducting and then spliced into the server room
when I asked the open reach guy about the old copper going into the Distribution Point, he said in a few years (after the PSTN switch off, and all FTTP changes are complete) that BT will go and start pulling out the old copper lines.
Probably a lot of money for recycling when melted down
So leave it a bit, and it’ll all be done for you
Thanks - very useful info.a new fibre line blown through the ducting and then spliced into the server room
when I asked the open reach guy about the old copper going into the Distribution Point, he said in a few years (after the PSTN switch off, and all FTTP changes are complete) that BT will go and start pulling out the old copper lines.
Probably a lot of money for recycling when melted down
So leave it a bit, and it’ll all be done for you
There’s a good chance that the new fibres will be overhead & the old copper stuff left in place. Will be interesting to see how it pans out.
The end of 2025 is the target date to remove the old TDM network.
You can ask Openreach to remove their stuff here:-
https://www.openreach.com/building-developers-and-...
No mention of charges, seems to be free from google comments. At least you’ll know by filling in the form !
The end of 2025 is the target date to remove the old TDM network.
You can ask Openreach to remove their stuff here:-
https://www.openreach.com/building-developers-and-...
No mention of charges, seems to be free from google comments. At least you’ll know by filling in the form !
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