Ring cams and wifi jammers

[cheeky_chops]

Got a Ring spotlight on the front of the house - some fecker has broken panels off my gate over weekend. Dont think they got thru (gap too small) and no sign of attempted access to house. Reviewed Ring footage and its just the usual family/postie comings and goings. Im a light sleeper with a stone drive too. They could of come across neighbours drive and hopped over short fence between us but he has 2 a.n.other brand wifi cams and works nights from home, nothings alerted him.

Wife spoke to guy who does house alarm - turns out wifi jammers can stop the camera transmitting and can block a 40 meter range so effectively they become ghosts. That got me googling...

basics - https://www.smarthomepoint.com/jamming-ring-doorbe...
detailed - https://x4bx54.medium.com/use-802-11w-or-wpa3-to-p...

Anyone actually experienced this?? I ordered another ring cam for the backdoor/gate but maybe i should be going wired/POE

[rigga]

Son's bike was stolen from the shed in the back garden, only way out with it was past the front door, and ring doorbell camera.
Picked up nothing , and suspect the same, WiFi jamming was used .
Fitted a wired CCTV system the following week.

[AyBee]

Never understood the raving about Ring doorbells - delayed notifications, ability to be wifi jammed and a potato photo at best if you do catch anyone doing anything they shouldn't.

[Alorotom]

Thats the reason I bought the Netatmo cameras I use around the exterior of my property.

While the wifi jammer will stop the immediate alert the action is still recorded locally and as soon as the wifi is available the footage is available - yes it won't stop the action/theft but it will provide the evidence after the fact (but arguably there is no camera that will deter a theft if they want it)

[somouk]

Wifi jamming is indeed a real problem if you have serious thieves. The reality is that most of the time oppurtunistic thieves won't be carrying a wifi jammer with them.

I find the Ring system isn't great at detecting all movement and logging it as an event, because it's not a constant record I think mine have missed a few things.

You would have to go to a CCTV system that is wired and has a local storage option for the best solution.

[Evanivitch]

WiFi jamming is a very simple thing but I really doubt that's what's being used for some simple vandalism or bicycle theft. More likely equipment failure.

Just as easy to use IR saturation or dazzle to avoid a viable image.

[cheeky_chops]

100% agree you cant stop them, just make your house less welcoming. So on the hunt for a 4k POE system then

Searching "deauth" on aliexpress is very eye opening.... Going to buy a cheap USB deauth attack stick with buzzer

[anonymous-user]

AyBee said:

Never understood the raving about Ring doorbells - delayed notifications, ability to be wifi jammed and a potato photo at best if you do catch anyone doing anything they shouldn't.

I have a Ring Pro 2 which is hardwired (£220).

I have to say the image quality is excellent. 1536p HD image and very good colour night vision. My phone chimes/notifies within about 1 second of the doorbell being pressed, and the motion detection is really excellent if you take a few mins to set the detection zone properly. The zone can be set really easily via dragging points around on the app. It even has really clever stuff such as '3D' motion, where it can ignore people/traffic walking past the end of your driveway, even if they are in the detection zone, but the moment they move towards the house it begins recording.

It doesn't seem to miss (barely) any motion events, and it doesn't get triggered by stuff of no interest. It is very easy to quickly browse/review the motion event recordings if thats your thing.

Genuinely one of the best things I have bought for the house, but if it was crap I would happily say so. Maybe some of the other Ring doorbells are rubbish, I don't know, this is the only one I have had. I find it really useful though, and use it all the time to answer the door when I'm not at home, and quickly review any comings and goings, which it does really well. I honestly can't fault it.

But, I also have a full PoE Reolink camera system covering all areas of the outside of the house and garage, with 5mp cameras and 30 days of recording, which also has really pin-sharp images and recording. You can zoom right in on faces and numberplates and faces really well.

Either way, I guess thats me well covered even if someone does use a wifi jammer

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 22 September 15:25

[V8covin]

My video door bell doesn't pick up movement that originates behind it,it only works with movement coming towards it

[dapprman]

V8covin said:

My video door bell doesn't pick up movement that originates behind it,it only works with movement coming towards it

Mine struggles even with that, though I get little to no lag on notifications.
Having said that a friend had his son's bike stolen from out front of the house and the thief was recorded waving a knife at his camera.

[TTmonkey]

Ring doorbell isn’t a security system and anyone relying on one is kidding themselves.

It’s a doorbell with a camera. Allows you to tell the delivery driver to leave stufffon the door step when you are out or busy.

I have the Ring but it’s also overlooked by a proper camera/recorder.

[Evanivitch]

TTmonkey said:

Ring doorbell isn’t a security system and anyone relying on one is kidding themselves.

It’s a doorbell with a camera. Allows you to tell the delivery driver to leave stufffon the door step when you are out or busy.

I have the Ring but it’s also overlooked by a proper camera/recorder.

What makes your camera and recorder proper? Is it certified? Does it have on and off-site backup? Does it have real-time monitoring?

[Register1]

Massive Hikvision, with monster IR, giving 150 meter night time range.
Scary what it can pick up in absolute total darkness., like the worms moving across the back grass.
Auto tracking.
PTZ
Wired of course

[Mercdriver]

I have fitted two Swann camera systems to present and last house, pleased with them.

Cameras are all outside with cables run in loft to exit near camera in eaves. DVR is hidden in the loft far away from access point. Colour is good during day not so good at night but in conjunction with security light the images are good. I chose not to get an message if the camera detects something as they are outside, a spider can trip the alert but the system can be set to warn of an intruder.

You can set the time it records
You can set the area that it covers
You can set how sensitive it is

App gives access to the cameras from the internet so you can check the house from anywhere.

Caught a silly bh twice, a week apart trying to get into the car, local druggie,police charged her but procurator fiscal accepted her not guilty plea. I was willing to attend a identity parade as her features were easily recognisable, sunken cheeks, pointed nose and a fat ar$$. Possibly more serious charges awaiting so this minor charges was wiped. Discourages you from bothering the police though, they must wonder why they bother sometime.

The conmen who try their luck knocking on doors here, a lot of elderly owners, do not knock on my door must be camera shy and camera aware.

Only disadvantage are spiders as outside the infra red attracts insects moths etc so the spiders spin a web over the camera lens hoping to catch next meal. They are difficult to deter they keep remaking the web until you eventually give them the message. No web, no food, no food cannot spin a web. WD 40 sprayed around deters them must make the hairs on their legs sticky. You must be able to access the cameras with a broom to remove the webs.

Burglar alarms only warn you the bu££ers are in the house, better to deter them from entering. If they disable the system by cutting the cables then nothing will deter them.