Electrical connector

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wjwren

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4,484 posts

141 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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What are the metal parts called that go on to the copper cable to plug into the switch called please.


frisbee

5,122 posts

116 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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Spade connectors.

ruggedscotty

5,774 posts

215 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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frisbee said:
Spade connectors.
you cant call a spade a spade... that is not nice at all...

dickymint

25,604 posts

264 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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ruggedscotty said:
frisbee said:
Spade connectors.
you cant call a spade a spade... that is not nice at all...
And to make things worse they are female yikes

tribbles

4,017 posts

228 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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For mains. I would use fully shrouded connectors, rather than partially shrouded.

They are also known as spade terminals. And crimp spade terminals for more detail.

They sre a lot easier to use with a ratchet crimp tool, but you can get a cheap crimping tool that's a bit like a pair of scissors.

Eta: whoever wired that up was a bit of a wally - the colours of the spade terminals denote the wire thickness (which then corresponds with the current). So you would generally use red for 5A, blue for 10A and yelliow for 15A.

The person who wired it seems to have matched the colours to the wires.

One thing to be aware of is that there are different spade sizes. The size that is normslly used is 4.8mm, but you might find 3.2mm in some cases. Use a ruler to fond the right size.

Edited by tribbles on Sunday 24th July 03:21

NMNeil

5,860 posts

56 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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tribbles said:
For mains. I would use fully shrouded connectors, rather than partially shrouded.

Edited by tribbles on Sunday 24th July 03:21
For mains I wouldn't rely on the crimp. Solder and shrink wrap for safety.

tribbles

4,017 posts

228 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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That would be a lot more work for someone who doesn't know what a spade connector is! I've seen crimp used in commercial hardware a lot - i think it's easier to automate.

Could also add a full rubber boot onto the connector smile

Griffith4ever

4,599 posts

41 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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NMNeil said:
tribbles said:
For mains. I would use fully shrouded connectors, rather than partially shrouded.

Edited by tribbles on Sunday 24th July 03:21
For mains I wouldn't rely on the crimp. Solder and shrink wrap for safety.
What nonsense.

Open up your washing machine, tumble dryer, oven, you get the picture. Almost zero soldering and all spade crimps on all the 240v.

Op, this is for you, though check yours are around 6mm as there are also smaller 4mm versions

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291532251997

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

73 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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Griffith4ever said:
NMNeil said:
tribbles said:
For mains. I would use fully shrouded connectors, rather than partially shrouded.

Edited by tribbles on Sunday 24th July 03:21
For mains I wouldn't rely on the crimp. Solder and shrink wrap for safety.
What nonsense.

Open up your washing machine, tumble dryer, oven, you get the picture. Almost zero soldering and all spade crimps on all the 240v.

Op, this is for you, though check yours are around 6mm as there are also smaller 4mm versions

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291532251997
I've hooked up transformers in the megawatt range requiring parallel runs of 630mm tails. Didn't realise until now I'd bodged it!

I wouldn't mess around with cheap cruddy crimpers though, go ratchet or go home.

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

141 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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Thanks for the replies. Il head down to Toolstation today.

Griffith4ever

4,599 posts

41 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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Teddy Lop said:
I've hooked up transformers in the megawatt range requiring parallel runs of 630mm tails. Didn't realise until now I'd bodged it!

I wouldn't mess around with cheap cruddy crimpers though, go ratchet or go home.
Cheap as chips even at TS

https://www.toolstation.com/minotaur-ratchet-crimp...

I get through 10,000's of crimps - I manufacture on a small scale.

These days for a pro-ish looking finish I crimp and then cover the crimp and some of the wire with adhesive lined heat shrink. Ive defo found the supplier of the crimp terminals makes a BIg difference in terms of quality. "js-tradinguk" on ebay always supply me with good ones. Some ebay stuff has met the bin after the 1st use.

ruggedscotty

5,774 posts

215 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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Teddy Lop said:
I've hooked up transformers in the megawatt range requiring parallel runs of 630mm tails. Didn't realise until now I'd bodged it!

I wouldn't mess around with cheap cruddy crimpers though, go ratchet or go home.
2000A mains.... in free air etc.. thats pretty big indeed

twibs

200 posts

144 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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ruggedscotty said:
frisbee said:
Spade connectors.
you cant call a spade a spade... that is not nice at all...
you now have to call it a push on receptacle.
or a shovel.

NMNeil

5,860 posts

56 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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Griffith4ever said:
What nonsense.

Open up your washing machine, tumble dryer, oven, you get the picture. Almost zero soldering and all spade crimps on all the 240v.

Op, this is for you, though check yours are around 6mm as there are also smaller 4mm versions

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291532251997
True, but I was thinking more of DIY crimping.
Can't remember how many times I'd traced a cars electrical fault down to a poorly applied crimp connector.


tribbles

4,017 posts

228 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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NMNeil said:
True, but I was thinking more of DIY crimping.
Can't remember how many times I'd traced a cars electrical fault down to a poorly applied crimp connector.

That wasn't done with a ratchet crimping tool, as the top bit (which should grip the wire sleeve to some extent) hasn't been crimped. it was also done not tight enough.

Also, fullly shrouded connectors are a little harder to pull in that manner.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

73 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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NMNeil said:
True, but I was thinking more of DIY crimping.
Can't remember how many times I'd traced a cars electrical fault down to a poorly applied crimp connector.

You can't reduce your way out of incompetence. It'll fight you all the way down to where everyone has nothing and then does it matter if you won or lost?

Although, the people writing the electrical regs have yet to figure this out - that's what happens when desk jockeys decide everything.

tribbles

4,017 posts

228 months

Monday 25th July 2022
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tribbles said:
NMNeil said:
True, but I was thinking more of DIY crimping.
Can't remember how many times I'd traced a cars electrical fault down to a poorly applied crimp connector.

That wasn't done with a ratchet crimping tool, as the top bit (which should grip the wire sleeve to some extent) hasn't been crimped. it was also done not tight enough.

Also, fullly shrouded connectors are a little harder to pull in that manner.
I've had another look, and I think the person who did this abomination probably slid the plastic off, and then crimped it with a pair of pliers before attempting to push the insulation back on.

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

141 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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Just wiring it up and can seem to get power to the device. There are no instructions with the unit. Looking on Amazon reviews I'm led to believe the bottom one is live and top is neutral but that's for input. Where I'm trying to put power to the device (output)


wjwren

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141 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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Trustmeimadoctor

13,266 posts

161 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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Stick a multimeter on it and do check continuity from the live and neutral of a mains cable