Iphone XR - unwanted employer software

[jimmydash]

Hello, I started with a new company on Monday, they gave a laptop etc.. and asked my to download Teams to my iphone. I did so. It was a real pain so I deleted the Teams app but my phone is sending me multiple notifications that my employer wants to install outlook and Edge. I don't want this and can't see any setting to remove this. Any suggestions?

[LordGrover]

Probably a profile in VPN & Device Management...

[InitialDave]

I assume it's your personal phone, not one they provided?

[MesoForm]

jimmydash said:

Hello, I started with a new company on Monday, they gave a laptop etc.. and asked my to download Teams to my iphone. I did so. It was a real pain so I deleted the Teams app but my phone is sending me multiple notifications that my employer wants to install outlook and Edge. I don't want this and can't see any setting to remove this. Any suggestions?

Is this your personal phone? I wouldn't want anything that can send me work messages on my personal phone, you need a way of separating your work life and your home life and having the potential to see work messages when on holiday would drive me nuts. I'd also be concerned your work would want an option to remote wipe the phone.
If they don't give you a phone I'd just buy an iPhone 8 for work if it's just Teams, Outlook, etc. you need.

[geeks]

jimmydash said:

Hello, I started with a new company on Monday, they gave a laptop etc.. and asked my to download Teams to my iphone. I did so. It was a real pain so I deleted the Teams app but my phone is sending me multiple notifications that my employer wants to install outlook and Edge. I don't want this and can't see any setting to remove this. Any suggestions?

Before we go any further. Your phone or theirs?

(I work in this space for a living, deploying EMM/UEM/MDM type solutions for around 10 years and now design those solutions and strategies etc)

[cobra kid]

geeks said:

Before we go any further. Your phone or theirs?

(I work in this space for a living, deploying EMM/UEM/MDM type solutions for around 10 years and now design those solutions and strategies etc)

God bless you.....deploying, strategies and solutions in one sentence!!

[geeks]

cobra kid said:

geeks said:

Before we go any further. Your phone or theirs?

(I work in this space for a living, deploying EMM/UEM/MDM type solutions for around 10 years and now design those solutions and strategies etc)

God bless you.....deploying, strategies and solutions in one sentence!!

Yeah yeah it's all corporate speak but that's the way it goes. Do I feel like Dilbert? Yes. Do I care? No, I, just like everyone else, have a mortgage to pay and a car habit to fund.

[cobra kid]

geeks said:

Yeah yeah it's all corporate speak but that's the way it goes. Do I feel like Dilbert? Yes. Do I care? No, I, just like everyone else, have a mortgage to pay and a car habit to fund.

As we all do. I just resist talking like that though, as much as possible.

[ridds]

Don't do it.

I used to use my personal phone for work (integrated to the server for Outlook etc) and one day someone with IT activated "phone must be PIN protected" via their control. Which unfortunately didn't give the opportunity to set the PIN. Phone locked for many hours, eventually found out what they had done, no way out of it, I had to hard reset the phone.

Now I'll only use web-based access to work systems. If the business require the use of apps and control then they would have to provide a phone.

[jimmydash]

My phone.

[jimmydash]

LordGrover said:

Probably a profile in VPN & Device Management...

Thank you for this, you were quite right there was a management thing I've just deleted.

[Lucas Ayde]

They have no right to demand you install anything on your personal phone. If they require you to have apps x,y,z then they need to provide you with a dedicated work phone.

I chose to install teams on my own phone because it's handier for me not to have to carry two phones all the time, but that was my choice and not mandated. I make very sure to mark myself as not available outside of working hours and will not respond to any incoming messages at those times, unless I feel like it.

[InitialDave]

jimmydash said:

My phone.

Then delete anything already installed, and don't install anything further.

It's for them to supply you a phone if they feel such things are necessary.

[eeLee]

InTune is what was causing this. You work for an M365 establishment

InTune is absolutely annoying in the BYOD context. My employer foisted Outlook for Mobile on me and a unified Inbox - I did not want one inbox for work and play. And don't talk to me about the repetitive need to enter the password for the InTune MDM layer multiple times for multiple apps.....

[LordGrover]

jimmydash said:

LordGrover said:

Probably a profile in VPN & Device Management...

Thank you for this, you were quite right there was a management thing I've just deleted.

[anxious_ant]

InitialDave said:

It's for them to supply you a phone if they feel such things are necessary.

Indeed. My employers have a very strict policy regarding company software/data on personal devices.
Basically no BYOD at all, if you need a mobile device the company would issue one.

[geeks]

eeLee said:

InTune is what was causing this. You work for an M365 establishment

InTune is absolutely annoying in the BYOD context. My employer foisted Outlook for Mobile on me and a unified Inbox - I did not want one inbox for work and play. And don't talk to me about the repetitive need to enter the password for the InTune MDM layer multiple times for multiple apps.....

Then it's configured very, very badly.

[blueg33]

Outlook on an Iphone is several orders of magnitude worse than the Apple calendar and email apps. Our company insists we have Outlook on company phones and I hate them with a passion. I suspect it has had a negative impact on productivity as emails etc are so much harder to read and reply to.

[LordGrover]

Outlook has one feature at least that makes it invaluable to me over Apple Mail app; swipe to snooze emails.
Extremely useful and a major omission by Apple.

[the-norseman]

I'm a Linux/Android user.

My work laptop is Windows 10 and now have a iPhone XR, even after a year I still struggle with the gestures etc on it, but having Teams, Outlook etc on it has been good and they all work as expected for me.

OP no way I'd be letting work install managed apps on my phone, tell them to provide you one.