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For me,
Win: much better native tools for tiling windows if you have large screens - rather like fancyzones if you've seen that.
Major issue - no scope for having one taskbar icon per window rather than one per application.
If I've got few windows open and want to see them all, 11 is better. If I have so many windows open I need to switch between them all the time then 10 is better.
everything else is noise.
Win: much better native tools for tiling windows if you have large screens - rather like fancyzones if you've seen that.
Major issue - no scope for having one taskbar icon per window rather than one per application.
If I've got few windows open and want to see them all, 11 is better. If I have so many windows open I need to switch between them all the time then 10 is better.
everything else is noise.
New pc with win 11 next to old one with win 10
Don't think I've touched the old one since I got it.
Not keen on the status bar restrictions, ie can't drag a file onto an icon and it opens the app, but other than that it's fine.
I have printer problems, but I have them with win10 too, and had them with win 7 etc etc etc.
What is it with printers?
Don't think I've touched the old one since I got it.
Not keen on the status bar restrictions, ie can't drag a file onto an icon and it opens the app, but other than that it's fine.
I have printer problems, but I have them with win10 too, and had them with win 7 etc etc etc.
What is it with printers?
snuffy said:
Best stick to Windows 3.1 if all the subsequent versions are crap.
An impressively passive aggressive defensive reply. I'm not sure even Bill gates would that defensive!
My original post was mostly tongue in cheek- i quite like Windows, but some of the versions have been horrific, and few have been particularly stable when first released.
One of my laptops I upgraded to Windows 11... desktop still on Windows 10.
I'm completely ambivalent to either. Windows 11 looks ok, but needs a while to learn where things have moved. windows 10 seems just fine as it is.
I'm in no hurry to move desktop over to w11 as well, as others have said driver issues and the like is a hassle I don't need. So no, not horrifically bad, but also not asstoundingly good.
As someone wise once said, the OS should be "in the background", the apps are where you spend all your time working.
I'm completely ambivalent to either. Windows 11 looks ok, but needs a while to learn where things have moved. windows 10 seems just fine as it is.
I'm in no hurry to move desktop over to w11 as well, as others have said driver issues and the like is a hassle I don't need. So no, not horrifically bad, but also not asstoundingly good.
As someone wise once said, the OS should be "in the background", the apps are where you spend all your time working.
Apart from the task bar looking different, and the formatting in some of the settings screens...I barely noticed.
I'd suggest from my experience: If you're hoping for some earth shattering change...don't upgrade, it's not that different. If you want life to carry on without reminders to upgrade...upgrade, it's not that different.
I'd suggest from my experience: If you're hoping for some earth shattering change...don't upgrade, it's not that different. If you want life to carry on without reminders to upgrade...upgrade, it's not that different.
A support guy's view.
It's terrible.
Task bar no longer does anything, right click for task manager was useful.
Right click for anything is now a mash of ribbon and options with an extra more button, registry hacks might work but then get removed following updates.
Updates just run whenever and randomly stop stuff working while pending.
Systray combines everything into one menu that removes any quick access to the old control panel and saves you into settings, which no longer has the functionality of the old control panel.
Printers might or might not.
App defaults get reset every update and are are a pain to reset.
If you just use windows as application launcher and you use edge and webmail you'll be fine.
It's terrible.
Task bar no longer does anything, right click for task manager was useful.
Right click for anything is now a mash of ribbon and options with an extra more button, registry hacks might work but then get removed following updates.
Updates just run whenever and randomly stop stuff working while pending.
Systray combines everything into one menu that removes any quick access to the old control panel and saves you into settings, which no longer has the functionality of the old control panel.
Printers might or might not.
App defaults get reset every update and are are a pain to reset.
If you just use windows as application launcher and you use edge and webmail you'll be fine.
I regret upgrading my primary personal device to Win11. I'll be rebuilding it with Win10 when a get a spare hour or 2.
Aside from the interface adding steps to many standard tasks, the privacy issues the key one for me is stability. I have a pretty popular laptop and with modern standby it crashes and restarts shortly after a boot, resume from standby or hibernation. I read reports claiming it was an issue with the video
driver and standby but trying updates drivers from both the laptop vendor and nvidia havent fixed the issue.
It needs to mature in hardware support and in terms if the interface for me.
Aside from the interface adding steps to many standard tasks, the privacy issues the key one for me is stability. I have a pretty popular laptop and with modern standby it crashes and restarts shortly after a boot, resume from standby or hibernation. I read reports claiming it was an issue with the video
driver and standby but trying updates drivers from both the laptop vendor and nvidia havent fixed the issue.
It needs to mature in hardware support and in terms if the interface for me.
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