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Isn't this just the cyberspace William Gibson let loose on the world in the 80s?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58949867
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58949867
Jim the Sunderer said:
Sounds like a dead on arrival gimmick like 3D TVs.
I watched a few minutes of a tennis game I think on someone’s 3D TV. Literally felt nauseous and had to take them off. What a total waste of £ plus the owner had two pairs of glasses yet had 4 kids living in the house…. Buy 4 more pairs…. No they are hugely pricey hahahaha
It’s not dead on arrival though. Kids hang out on Fortnite. And increasingly in rec room in VR which has similar games within it.
There is a reason Facebook sells quest2 at a loss. And it ain’t cos zuck loves playing mini golf.
People laughed at instagram aquisition but failed to appreciate the social element. VR will be similar for oculus I’m fairly sure.
There is a reason Facebook sells quest2 at a loss. And it ain’t cos zuck loves playing mini golf.
People laughed at instagram aquisition but failed to appreciate the social element. VR will be similar for oculus I’m fairly sure.
aparna said:
It’s not dead on arrival though. Kids hang out on Fortnite. And increasingly in rec room in VR which has similar games within it.
There is a reason Facebook sells quest2 at a loss. And it ain’t cos zuck loves playing mini golf.
People laughed at instagram aquisition but failed to appreciate the social element. VR will be similar for oculus I’m fairly sure.
I suspect it may be dead not long after arrival. There is a reason Facebook sells quest2 at a loss. And it ain’t cos zuck loves playing mini golf.
People laughed at instagram aquisition but failed to appreciate the social element. VR will be similar for oculus I’m fairly sure.
The whole VR concept is very flawed as it only deals with a fraction of your senses. Even if someone managed to magically create a 4K VR headset, with perfect real world rendering, all you’re getting is vision. You don’t get movement, gravity, acceleration. My son has a VR headset, and the games are incredibly limited because of this. Loads of “arm driven” target shooting. Very little with movement, because, it doesn’t really work. All you can get is a visual representation of movement without the other cues, which is why people tend to feel sick when using these devices. Yes, you can get a suit and a harness for a tilt wheel, but that getting seriously weird in your living room.
They’re doing it because it is the next “growth story” and something might spin out of it, but I would expect a lot of capital to be destroyed on that journey.
rxe said:
I suspect it may be dead not long after arrival.
The whole VR concept is very flawed as it only deals with a fraction of your senses. Even if someone managed to magically create a 4K VR headset, with perfect real world rendering, all you’re getting is vision. You don’t get movement, gravity, acceleration. My son has a VR headset, and the games are incredibly limited because of this. Loads of “arm driven” target shooting. Very little with movement, because, it doesn’t really work. All you can get is a visual representation of movement without the other cues, which is why people tend to feel sick when using these devices. Yes, you can get a suit and a harness for a tilt wheel, but that getting seriously weird in your living room.
They’re doing it because it is the next “growth story” and something might spin out of it, but I would expect a lot of capital to be destroyed on that journey.
That’s why the best games are room scale. Table tennis etc. The whole VR concept is very flawed as it only deals with a fraction of your senses. Even if someone managed to magically create a 4K VR headset, with perfect real world rendering, all you’re getting is vision. You don’t get movement, gravity, acceleration. My son has a VR headset, and the games are incredibly limited because of this. Loads of “arm driven” target shooting. Very little with movement, because, it doesn’t really work. All you can get is a visual representation of movement without the other cues, which is why people tend to feel sick when using these devices. Yes, you can get a suit and a harness for a tilt wheel, but that getting seriously weird in your living room.
They’re doing it because it is the next “growth story” and something might spin out of it, but I would expect a lot of capital to be destroyed on that journey.
But the games are not important for this concept. The social aspect is the key bit. Any kind of tech that gets people together chatting is something Facebook wants a piece of.
VR headsets are experiencing exponential growth right now largely due to rapid improvements in portability.
Interesting article. As I said before a concept that nearly sank Nintendo in the 90s and now cost Zuckerberg $36billion. He could have cured world hunger and climate change with that and still have change for a psp vita.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/commentisfr...
LaterLosers said:
Interesting article. As I said before a concept that nearly sank Nintendo in the 90s and now cost Zuckerberg $36billion. He could have cured world hunger and climate change with that and still have change for a psp vita.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/commentisfr...
So less than the government managed to spend on Track and Trace then? A system that is basically using an Excel spreadsheet......https://www.theguardian.com/technology/commentisfr...
LaterLosers said:
Interesting article. As I said before a concept that nearly sank Nintendo in the 90s and now cost Zuckerberg $36billion. He could have cured world hunger and climate change with that and still have change for a psp vita.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/commentisfr...
Rookie numbers.https://www.theguardian.com/technology/commentisfr...
LaterLosers said:
Interesting article. As I said before a concept that nearly sank Nintendo in the 90s and now cost Zuckerberg $36billion. He could have cured world hunger and climate change with that and still have change for a psp vita.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/commentisfr...
$36b is a drop in the ocean compared to what is required to cure world hunger and climate change (and even adding a few more zero's on to that figure won't solve the problem until there is the political and social will).https://www.theguardian.com/technology/commentisfr...
The article is written by a miserable old sod who, with the benefit of hindsight, is happy to judge someone's actions based on their own set of ideals. Not a fan of "Zuck" and all the facebook crap, but it's not like he just set fire to $36b in the parking lot. It was invested into the economy, peoples wages, skillsets, etc, and some of that will serve to benefit future projects. If people didn't take risks then we'd still be living in the dark ages.
The metaverse or VR will one day be a thing, unless humans destroy themselves first.
The pioneers will either suffer huge losses on the route to someone else winning - Atari \ BOAC etc.
Or they'll somehow stick it out and ultimately win - Inbev maybe??
Electronics and Tech is littered with brilliant ideas (SInclair QL \ Amiga) introduced at he wrong time for the market, and poor ideas at the right time (MS Dos)
I think the metaverse is a big idea, ahead of it's time, by a man getting older wanting things to hurry up. I'd put it at the failure end as Tesla is at the other end, both by people with vision.
I expect it'll not be Facebook who ultimately succeeds in useful VR, however it'll be held up as a pioneering example.
The pioneers will either suffer huge losses on the route to someone else winning - Atari \ BOAC etc.
Or they'll somehow stick it out and ultimately win - Inbev maybe??
Electronics and Tech is littered with brilliant ideas (SInclair QL \ Amiga) introduced at he wrong time for the market, and poor ideas at the right time (MS Dos)
I think the metaverse is a big idea, ahead of it's time, by a man getting older wanting things to hurry up. I'd put it at the failure end as Tesla is at the other end, both by people with vision.
I expect it'll not be Facebook who ultimately succeeds in useful VR, however it'll be held up as a pioneering example.
ciege said:
The metaverse or VR will one day be a thing, unless humans destroy themselves first.
The pioneers will either suffer huge losses on the route to someone else winning - Atari \ BOAC etc.
Or they'll somehow stick it out and ultimately win - Inbev maybe??
Electronics and Tech is littered with brilliant ideas (SInclair QL \ Amiga) introduced at he wrong time for the market, and poor ideas at the right time (MS Dos)
I think the metaverse is a big idea, ahead of it's time, by a man getting older wanting things to hurry up. I'd put it at the failure end as Tesla is at the other end, both by people with vision.
I expect it'll not be Facebook who ultimately succeeds in useful VR, however it'll be held up as a pioneering example.
To an extent, VR is already a thing. Both within gaming and things like surgery at a distance.The pioneers will either suffer huge losses on the route to someone else winning - Atari \ BOAC etc.
Or they'll somehow stick it out and ultimately win - Inbev maybe??
Electronics and Tech is littered with brilliant ideas (SInclair QL \ Amiga) introduced at he wrong time for the market, and poor ideas at the right time (MS Dos)
I think the metaverse is a big idea, ahead of it's time, by a man getting older wanting things to hurry up. I'd put it at the failure end as Tesla is at the other end, both by people with vision.
I expect it'll not be Facebook who ultimately succeeds in useful VR, however it'll be held up as a pioneering example.
Zuck's problem was that he thought 'his' Metaverse was the answer to remote working, when that answer already existed. My wife's sister had weekly management meetings in Red Dead Redemption (!)
Now that the corporate world is returning to the office, Meta's virtual office space is redundant. Plus, and I don't know if this is public knowledge, but teams in the Horizons silo who used the Metaverse for meetings back in 2021/2 were constantly being hacked by kids who's have their avatars running around and swearing.
Probably due to the limitations of his personality, Zuckerberg was unable to add 'fun' to his vision. He bought gaming companies who had their own spin on immersive worlds and killed off the gaming bits.
Mark was on a racehorse called "Metaverse" and he was galloping along, way ahead of the field, when a train with "AI" painted on the side and with Microsoft, Google, Twitter and everyone else onboard came thundering past him.
Still, he paid us a s
tload of cash before he torpedoed the thing, so... 
Edited by Doofus on Monday 15th May 10:26
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