Revenge on Moaning Neighbours
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My wife has worked from home at this address for 2 years, 2 years at previous, (we moved here specifically to allow her the space she needed to work from home), group councilling for up to 9 people at a time. In Jan 03 she had to apply for retrospective planning as two neighbours opposite complained to council. We are the first house in our road, with plenty of parking between our gate and end of road (120 feet, 8 car lenghts, same on otherside of road) She got temp. planning for 1 year, but with restricted times of the day & only 6 people at a time. Last month she had to re-apply for permanant permission. It was turned down as the 2 original objectors persuaded a total of 21 people to object. There are only 34 houses in our road, excluding ours. Now she has to rent office space @ £600pcm. Any advice on legal (wife also JP), but horrid, revenge on the perps.
Tax a day out of date? Shop Em.
Wheelbarrow etc. left on footpath, Obstruction - Complain.
"Suspect" them of having a tipple then driving, ring the BIB.
Etc. Etc. All legal and your just being a good subject reporting anything that may in your opinion be detremental to the community, just like they were
Wheelbarrow etc. left on footpath, Obstruction - Complain.
"Suspect" them of having a tipple then driving, ring the BIB.
Etc. Etc. All legal and your just being a good subject reporting anything that may in your opinion be detremental to the community, just like they were
Sadly whatever you do could just make things worse.
The whole street would seem to have objected about your wife's business. Revenge would probably just make them all complain even more anout anything you do.
It could come to the stage where you simply didn't enjoy living there anymore!
The whole street would seem to have objected about your wife's business. Revenge would probably just make them all complain even more anout anything you do.
It could come to the stage where you simply didn't enjoy living there anymore!
In some ways i cant say i blame them with 6-9 extra cars coming down a quiet road.
I live in a quiet cul de sac and an extra 7-8 cars a day would make it a nightmare especially with the parking.
The council take a dim view on extra traffic through a residential area. So i would consider moving to a Farm house in the country that way you hav eno neighbours and some business planning already in existance.
Steve
I live in a quiet cul de sac and an extra 7-8 cars a day would make it a nightmare especially with the parking.
The council take a dim view on extra traffic through a residential area. So i would consider moving to a Farm house in the country that way you hav eno neighbours and some business planning already in existance.
Steve
Ta chaps. We suspect that one of the main stirrers does not pay tax on some of her income that she earns at home. So will call tax man @ some stage. Another councillor in another part of country is in the process of moving due to the same circumstsnces & bad feeling between her & neighbours. ut we'er made of sterner stuff.
>> Edited by GerryH on Tuesday 11th May 11:05
>> Edited by GerryH on Tuesday 11th May 11:05
I obviously don't know the ins and outs of the case but perhaps if that many people supported her complaint then it was a genuine problem for the neighbours.
Going for this sort of revenge seems to be just a bit petty and spiteful and I'd guess in the long term detrimental to neighbourhood relations.
Going for this sort of revenge seems to be just a bit petty and spiteful and I'd guess in the long term detrimental to neighbourhood relations.
For the last 12 months she has worked within her temp. planning limits, max 6 people/cars. The complaints were all exagerated, eg up to 15 cars, finishing at 10.45 at night, she always finished by 9.30. We live in a 5 bedroom, 4 doubles + a single, house, so 9 people could live here, with their cars. A good mate of mine, fellow p/header, lives in a 2 bedroom bungelow. When his son was living there, and sons girlfriend stayed over, there were 6 cars parked outside his house. Now the son is married and moved out, they still have 4 cars between the 2 of them. So 6 cars at our house is within the limits of what could be expected to normally be parked outside. Anyway, I seem to have annoyed one chap already, by simply parking outside his house overnight. He came over this a.m. to ask why I had parked there. I said 'it's a free country, & I'll park where I like.' And closed the door. + I am now allowed to play ICE at full belt. 300watts into 2 x 12' subs & 2 x 10' full range in boot + 100watts into 2 x 5.5' full + tweaters in front. Wife always asked to turn it down to appease neighbours before they objected. Happy days.
>> Edited by GerryH on Tuesday 11th May 14:55
>> Edited by GerryH on Tuesday 11th May 14:55
Grandad, who moaned about me parking outside his house on Tues a.m. now parks his '04 reg Citreon in road outside his house. B4 he always put it in garage, not even on drive. Next Wed, having op. on back. Can not drive for 4 weeks after. Can't decide who's house to leave it outside ? ? ? 
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>> Edited by GerryH on Thursday 13th May 10:21
>> Edited by GerryH on Thursday 13th May 10:21
NOT >> Edited by GerryH on Thursday 13th May 10:21
>> Edited by GerryH on Thursday 13th May 10:21
if its a residential area, then business should not be run from there. It would anoy the neighbours.
If you moved to the house becasue of the space to work from but did not apply for PP or councils agreement then, you didnt plan very well. What does your mortgage say (if any) about working from home?)
I wouldnt take it personally, business is business, dont go for revenge, keep it professional. Like most other business you have overheads such as offices.
I dont think the neighbours are wrong to complain. Sorry.
If you moved to the house becasue of the space to work from but did not apply for PP or councils agreement then, you didnt plan very well. What does your mortgage say (if any) about working from home?)
I wouldnt take it personally, business is business, dont go for revenge, keep it professional. Like most other business you have overheads such as offices.
I dont think the neighbours are wrong to complain. Sorry.
totally agree with superlightr. YOU are being selfish by expecting your neighbours( who purchased houses in a residential area) to put up with your wifes business. Find proper premises. If you cant afford it - you got your business plan wrong. Sorry to rant but house next door to me got PP to convert to childrens nursery - 20 cars at 8am, 20 cars at 1pm, 20 cars at 5pm and a garden full of screaming kids twice a day.
P.S. My psychiatrist said I should let it out whenever possible!
P.S. My psychiatrist said I should let it out whenever possible!
Thought about old bangers, but as well as tax, you need MOT & insurance, as the registered owner is responsible, as neighbours are sure to complain about 'dumped' cars, and bill coming knocking on door with a 'producer'. Thought about buying old car & register it in their name then park in their drive! ! !As for the amount of cars, this is a 4 double + 1 single bed house, so 9 people + 9 cars could reasonably be expected to live here. So wife's 6 visitors + our 2 = 8 cars max. Less than the 9+ when we rent the house out as seperate rooms. I respect peoples right to object, it's our right, but what I have objected to is the way 2 neighbours have ralleyed a total of 21 objectors and told downright lies exagerating the times and the ammount of cars parked. She has 6 max, letters said up to 15. She finished at 9.30pm, as temp planning allowed, they said 10.45pm. etc, etc ... Before we moved here, council said planning was not needed unless there were objections.
>> Edited by GerryH on Tuesday 18th May 18:02
>> Edited by GerryH on Tuesday 18th May 18:02
I had a similar problem with neighbours and my dogs, they got a big petition together sed that he was barking day an night??
They took me to court me bin ex plod did me homework got me own independant witnesses to sit outside the house for a week n monitor, dog trainer an RSPCA INSPECTOR, went to court wiped the floor with em there own monitoring of the noise conflicted with eachother and I got to have a copy of all the petition names etc, revenge was sweet
My favorite was parking a flat back wagon at te end of his very narrow street for a week or so littrally one foot away from an right across the front of his house I borrowed it from a friend of mine at the slaughter house and on occasion he would often leave a festering bag of black tripe open in the back
Me dad also had a few ice cream vans its a bugger when there chimes go off an no one can get hold of you oh yeah the car alam thats faulty
Or jus buy a cheap luton van park it on the road not part on pavement and park it on the road in that jus awkward spot
The neighbours eventually became very good friends and admitted they had jus bin awkward twots, jus remember it is better to have a friendly neighbour although revenge is good 2
They took me to court me bin ex plod did me homework got me own independant witnesses to sit outside the house for a week n monitor, dog trainer an RSPCA INSPECTOR, went to court wiped the floor with em there own monitoring of the noise conflicted with eachother and I got to have a copy of all the petition names etc, revenge was sweet
My favorite was parking a flat back wagon at te end of his very narrow street for a week or so littrally one foot away from an right across the front of his house I borrowed it from a friend of mine at the slaughter house and on occasion he would often leave a festering bag of black tripe open in the back
Me dad also had a few ice cream vans its a bugger when there chimes go off an no one can get hold of you
oh yeah the car alam thats faulty Or jus buy a cheap luton van park it on the road not part on pavement and park it on the road in that jus awkward spot
The neighbours eventually became very good friends and admitted they had jus bin awkward twots, jus remember it is better to have a friendly neighbour although revenge is good 2
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