Task/Time Management

Task/Time Management

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PetrolTed

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34,443 posts

310 months

Sunday 4th May 2003
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Has anyone got any top tips for managing the infamous 'to do' list? Running this business involves me doing a multitude of different things and I have trouble keeping track of what tasks need doing. The great diversity of stuff makes that list even more challenging.

I go through phases of being really organised and using the task management in Outlook, but that just ends up with hundreds of reminders popping up and me postponing them.

Then I end up writing them in my notebook and carrying them over each day as I tick them off until I get lazy about that and forget a few and get out of the routine.

Then I try writing everything up on the whiteboard but then then becomes familiar and I start ignoring the tasks that have been up there for ages.

Then I go back to Outlook...

I guess I just need to be more disciplined in my routine (but that's the trouble - many days are very different so routines get broken).

Has anyone got the answer?!

alan_driver

1,281 posts

264 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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what you need is a long tie, to tie many knots

johno

8,520 posts

289 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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Ted,

I suffer the exact same way. The only way I can do it is to re write my to do list daily. First thing I do when I'm in the office in the morning.

Discipline .... although I can't say that I do it every single day. I handwrote mine in a 'day book' which is vital in my role. If I lost it I would be knackered.

I can not get on with computers for this kind of thing.

Not a lot help really ...

HarryW

15,279 posts

276 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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Agree that outlook can be a bit of a pain but if you work on a PC then it's, for me anyway, the only way to manage meetings etc, don't bung it up with trivia though otherwise you'll just ignor it.
I also prefer a 'things to do' list in the day diary (A4 size helps!!), discipline does comes in handy with this. There is no problem in transferring from the previous day but I find that first thing in the morning it's worth scanning them and writing a priority number next to them, at least you'll get the iportant things done first. I find it also handy and slip the odd 'go for a beer' entry in as at least you can meet that one .
Once saw a management training video about 'time management' staring John Cleese, very funny but sadly true, worth looking at if you can find it.

Harry

PS normally if its all getting on top of you i.e. every day, it's a sure sign that you need a holiday to chill and forget about it all, lifes too short not too

Size Nine Elm

5,167 posts

291 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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Ted,

Process before tools... any of the above can work, but you have to stick to it.

OTOH, Excel works quite well, you can stick your own priority, etc on it. Guess its abit like Outlook without the reminders.

BTW I'm the same

dontlift

9,396 posts

265 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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Ted,

Get a wife, mine is pretty good at managing my time

tvrforever

3,182 posts

272 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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dontlift,

Do they do versions that only manage work time though?

Currently I've got a daybook, whiteboard, lotus notes and a palm pilot - and have a habbit of leaving myself voicemails for important reminders. Needless to say the best one is the scrap of A4 with the handwritten 'do today or die' list...

That being said I find a couple of tricks work really well :-

1) Never answer phone calls unless you recognise the phone # - let the rest go to voicemail

2) Only listen to voicemail twice a day (and weekdays only) 9AM and 4PM

3) Rewrite your 'to do' day list at 5pm each night for the next day - this way you leave work not fretting about stuff you might have fogotten

4) Once in a while review all tasks and either bin or do the one's that have been outstanding for ages

5) Review email in batches not all the time - set the incoming alert to be hourly

6) Delegate ruthlessly - you can't do it all yourself even if you'd like to (most people have a big trust thing to get over here)

As said above get into a rythm and most importantly enjoy pistonheads

Cheers

dans

1,137 posts

291 months

Tuesday 6th May 2003
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I use outlook, add a new list every evening before finishing work, I also synchronise the list across home and work computers and have it on my P800 finally just incase i should forget, I print out the days list at the start of the day to have an easily annotated list sitting on the desk.



or get a bossy PA.


>> Edited by dans on Tuesday 6th May 13:10

shadowninja

77,492 posts

289 months

Tuesday 6th May 2003
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I have a good method, but I'm far too busy to reply

s2ooz

3,005 posts

291 months

Tuesday 6th May 2003
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a compaq PDA with excel and outlook syncronization on it.

a life saver. However, understanding time management principles course, also a revolution in my ways of managing

Psychobert

6,316 posts

263 months

Wednesday 7th May 2003
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Size Nine Elm said: Process before tools... any of the above can work, but you have to stick to it.



Exactly.. Whatever tool will only help you if you have the process behind it to back it up. Personally I use an ipaq synched to my desktop; everything goes into the gadget and its so far not let me down.

I've heard good things about a piece of software called GoalPro, (do a google) but haven't tried it myself yet.

I've just been asked to come up with a 45 minute presentation/workshop syndicate on just this subject.. If I ever get around to doing it, I'll copy you into the materials.. (Those that know me IRL as it were will be ROFLAO now - not being the most organised of people I was hoping to attend, not give the session..)

PetrolTed

Original Poster:

34,443 posts

310 months

Thursday 8th May 2003
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Well, I'm back to Outlook currently and have had a couple of days of extreme efficiency basically down to staying focused etc. Not sure how long I can keep it up though!

Sparks

1,217 posts

286 months

Thursday 8th May 2003
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If you don't need it for anything else, get a Palm Zire (70GBP) and synch that to Outlook. Can also hold all of your contacts diary etc (or am I preaching to the converted?)

As everyone else says, you need to get the process right first.

Sparks (the MOST disorganized person in the world)

PetrolTed

Original Poster:

34,443 posts

310 months

Thursday 8th May 2003
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I don't need mobility of my task list as I spend most of my time glued to the PC anyway.

swilly

9,699 posts

281 months

Thursday 8th May 2003
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Why put off today, what you can put off for ever.

I find i am so busy sometimes, i don't have time to do anything

ErnestM

11,621 posts

274 months

Saturday 10th May 2003
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PetrolTed said: Well, I'm back to Outlook currently and have had a couple of days of extreme efficiency basically down to staying focused etc. Not sure how long I can keep it up though!


Ted, I hate to break it to you, but you are heading toward the first hurdle of success. It's time for a "girl friday"/assistant. I was there about 5 years ago. I was trying to do everything myself and just couldn't, so things did not get done. My assistant now does all of the petty time consuming things (like bill paying and collecting past dues from clients, etc) while I can focus on more strategic items...

...also, if you can get a copy of Steven Covey's "The 7 habits of highly effective people", it's a good read...

ErnestM

davidd

6,527 posts

291 months

Tuesday 13th May 2003
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Ted

I have to agree with ErnestM, you are getting overly successful. Hire yourself some managers, give the forum moderators more control buy youself a well connected Ipaq and retire to the sun

We use a seperate online diary to book appointments, Bonce wrote it so it is excellent and simple and works really well for holidays, meetings, busy, working from home, etc, etc. It is tied to a timesheet system so we can use it for project costings etc.

Where it is weak is assigning tasks, I gave up on outlook a while ago as it was overly annoying, I sort out a list in the morning as I shower and get dressed then come to work and get sidetracked. I do use voice messages for myself and post its as they annoy me so I do the task so I can get rid of the post it. I'm getting a P800 next week (thanks for your help there DanS, did I tell you we are getting them for nothing?) so I will be using outlook and the P800 to maintain a list of important stuff like the Business Plan rewrite I should be doing now (I hate writing business plans).

Oh well back to work.

D.

powelly

490 posts

289 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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Ted, my wife ramb;es on about elephant tasks... deal with them when they are in the distance, nice and small... as opposed to how I do it, wait until the beggers are right on top of you and trample all over you!

Alternately, don't go home 'til you've finished.... :-)

PetrolTed

Original Poster:

34,443 posts

310 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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Not sure about the never going home bit

It's been a good week for task management - I've stayed organised and achieved a lot. The issue of growth is real though. No matter how organised I am it is getting to the point at which I'll need help of some sort. How I attack that is to be decided when I get five minutes

granville

18,764 posts

268 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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Buggered if I know, Ted; after 13 years of wishing I'd done an Llb and become a fully paid up member of the bloodsuckers' society, I'm weary of believing genuine delegation is even achievable - as you infer is necessary.

Not so much a case of not being able to get the staff as specific managers.

I've been here since 0730 and don't know a manager on earth that would genuinely work the necessaries...