Use of Company Cars, Refund to Company for Private Use Fue

Use of Company Cars, Refund to Company for Private Use Fue

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MustangGT

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12,287 posts

287 months

Wednesday 10th July
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We have a situation where a number of employees have cars provided. They are allowed to use them for personal use, however, we want them to repay the fuel cost of the private miles to avoid the BIK for fuel for private use.

What rate should we charge them? Should it be the HMRC guidance for fuel claims for company cars, e.g. 15p/mile for petrol car less than 1400cc? If we charge them, say, 25p/mile will they be able to claim the 10p difference back as a contribution to use of the car and reduce their actual car BIK?

I cannot find any sensible guidance on this online.

Many thanks in advance.

clockworks

6,138 posts

152 months

Wednesday 10th July
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My last company car came with an optional "reimburse" fuel card for this reason, although we could opt for a normal card and get taxed. At the time, we paid back at 13p a mile. Bit of a pain submitting weekly mileage logs.

Not sure why you would want to "overcharge" the employees though?

andburg

7,690 posts

176 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Go the other way?
Drop the fuel cards and let employees claim back business miles are the approved rates

clockworks

6,138 posts

152 months

Wednesday 10th July
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andburg said:
Go the other way?
Drop the fuel cards and let employees claim back business miles are the approved rates
It worked this way for me for 20 years and 3 employers - pay with my own credit card, claim mileage back weekly. It was only for the last couple of years that we had to take a fuel card.

I quite liked claiming the mileage, as I could drive economically and make enough profit to cover the the car contributions.

phil-sti

2,814 posts

186 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Get them to pay it back at the advisory fuel rates

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/advisory-fuel-rates

LastPoster

2,715 posts

190 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Using the HMRC rates is probably easiest for you and won’t present much of a challenge, unless you are providing certain hybrids which don’t translate consumption to engine size very well (Toyotas in our case)

The other way I have done in the past is to log all fuel bought on the card in the month and then work out the ratio of business/private miles and the driver pays back the appropriate amount. There’s a small amount of inaccuracy in this as the purchase/use won’t fit exactly into the month but it evens out generally


MustangGT

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12,287 posts

287 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Thank you all for your input, I will make my recommendation based on your advice.

andburg

7,690 posts

176 months

Wednesday 10th July
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Go the other way?
Drop the fuel cards and let employees claim back business miles are the approved rates

MustangGT

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12,287 posts

287 months

Thursday 11th July
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andburg said:
Go the other way?
Drop the fuel cards and let employees claim back business miles are the approved rates
That is indeed my recommendation. Waiting for directors decision.

surveyor

18,139 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th July
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MustangGT said:
andburg said:
Go the other way?
Drop the fuel cards and let employees claim back business miles are the approved rates
That is indeed my recommendation. Waiting for directors decision.
We have this system. I have yet to have a car that achieves HMRC advisory fuel consumption annoyingly.