OEM Questions / from China...

OEM Questions / from China...

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vdn

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

210 months

Saturday 20th April
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I have a found a product and after some haggling, want to go ahead with ordering.

The manufacturer has asked: 'Could you send me your logo document and your oem product number?'

Forgive my naivety. What is a logo document? AND what is an OEM product number? (Perhaps just my own SKU?)

FMOB

1,994 posts

19 months

Saturday 20th April
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Sounds like are going to put your brand name on it so need a copy your company logo and a model number for the new product typically a series of alpha numerics characters that mean something.

Ean218

2,004 posts

257 months

Monday 22nd April
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Yes, they just want to know how you want to brand it and what you want to call it.

MrBig

3,123 posts

136 months

Monday 22nd April
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I would think it's more likely to be a letter of authorisation to use your logo. Increasingly common now as the Chinese authorities try to clamp down on counterfeit product.

vdn

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

210 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Yes it sounded more official than just 'send us a logo and name'. It's on pause until later in the week anyway. I'll ask her to confirm, as I'm definitely going ahead whatever the case may be.

Badda

2,900 posts

89 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Why didn’t you ask them what they meant?

vdn

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th May
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I did ... but a lot was lost in translation.

In the end it was a product authorisation letter they wanted. Basically clearing them to use our IP on products they make on our behalf.

XB70

2,491 posts

203 months

Wednesday 8th May
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I'd recommend (if not already done) looking into filing for the trade mark in China.

Even if the manufactured goods are not intended for sale in China, the resulting trade mark registration can be used to attack counterfeits made in the Chinese Market and sold or being made for export (you record the trade make registration before Chinese customs so can block the export of the counterfeit- assuming it bears your trade mark).

Depending on what the product is, also consider design protection.

If there is a novel invention to the product, then it may qualify for patent protection too.

Overall, it's a question of control and ownership of your IP and stopping others being able to use it without them facing an infringement risk.

Just flagging the above since many think (incorrectly) that you only need to protect the IP of goods in the market in which they are sold. It should also be protected in the country in which they ate being manufactured.

I can recommend an excellent IP firm in China if you want to get some advice from them.

vdn

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

210 months

Wednesday 8th May
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XB70 said:
I'd recommend (if not already done) looking into filing for the trade mark in China.

Even if the manufactured goods are not intended for sale in China, the resulting trade mark registration can be used to attack counterfeits made in the Chinese Market and sold or being made for export (you record the trade make registration before Chinese customs so can block the export of the counterfeit- assuming it bears your trade mark).

Depending on what the product is, also consider design protection.

If there is a novel invention to the product, then it may qualify for patent protection too.

Overall, it's a question of control and ownership of your IP and stopping others being able to use it without them facing an infringement risk.

Just flagging the above since many think (incorrectly) that you only need to protect the IP of goods in the market in which they are sold. It should also be protected in the country in which they ate being manufactured.

I can recommend an excellent IP firm in China if you want to get some advice from them.
Food for thought.

Yes please give details of that firm. Thank you.

vdn

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

210 months

Friday 10th May
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Hi XB,

If you do have that IP firm contact, I'd appreciate it as I will look to establish the TM there as suggested. Please email: sdprojects44(at)gmail.com

GingerMunky

1,188 posts

264 months

Sunday 12th May
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I would try https://www.shandp.com/ S H & P in Bristol. They have done our trademark and patents for years.

DSLiverpool

15,125 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th May
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MrBig said:
I would think it's more likely to be a letter of authorisation to use your logo. Increasingly common now as the Chinese authorities try to clamp down on counterfeit product.
Spot on

BGARK

5,538 posts

253 months

Monday 13th May
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Dont waste your money on "legal people", China will steal and copy anything, you wont be able to do anything about it unless you have very deep pockets.


DSLiverpool

15,125 posts

209 months

Monday 13th May
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BGARK said:
Dont waste your money on "legal people", China will steal and copy anything, you wont be able to do anything about it unless you have very deep pockets.
Absolutely-

FMOB

1,994 posts

19 months

Monday 13th May
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DSLiverpool said:
BGARK said:
Dont waste your money on "legal people", China will steal and copy anything, you wont be able to do anything about it unless you have very deep pockets.
Absolutely-
I remember a story about a UK audio speaker brand that went to China to have their products manufactured, the copies were on the market first.

48k

13,975 posts

155 months

Tuesday 14th May
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This is a great vfdeo from James Sinclair about importing from China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pekpck9XQbc

vdn

Original Poster:

8,979 posts

210 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Thanks all. Food for thought!