Automating email data entry into accounting software

Automating email data entry into accounting software

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BGARK

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5,538 posts

253 months

Sunday 17th March
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I'm in search of a software solution or add-on that can help streamline our accounting process by automatically extracting data from emails and inputting it into my accounting software. Essentially, I'm looking for a tool that can:

1. Receive emails containing relevant financial information
2. Extract data from either the email body or attachments
3. Automatically enter the extracted data into the appropriate fields within my accounting software

This would greatly reduce the manual effort required to keep financial records up to date based on email correspondence.

I would greatly appreciate any insights, recommendations, or experiences you can share regarding software or add-ons that can accomplish this task. If you have used or know of any tools that fit this description, please let me know.

Thank you in advance for your help!

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,593 posts

242 months

Sunday 17th March
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I'm a bit of an old fossil...

...but, wouldn't you worry about control balances etc to make sure the right stuff was populated correctly?

BGARK

Original Poster:

5,538 posts

253 months

Sunday 17th March
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I'm a bit of an old fossil...

...but, wouldn't you worry about control balances etc to make sure the right stuff was populated correctly?
We also use the Xero expenses app, take a photo of a receipt or invoice, add to "drafts", then check the criteria is correct.

Repeatable suppliers, account codes can be setup.

Why spend an hour on a task when it can be done in 10 mins?

There is a forum in Xero whereby hundreds of people have ask the same thing.... eg why do we have to take a photo of a printed invoice and upload it for analysis why not just email it straight to the system (it wont let you)






2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,593 posts

242 months

Sunday 17th March
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BGARK said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I'm a bit of an old fossil...

...but, wouldn't you worry about control balances etc to make sure the right stuff was populated correctly?
We also use the Xero expenses app, take a photo of a receipt or invoice, add to "drafts", then check the criteria is correct.

Repeatable suppliers, account codes can be setup.

Why spend an hour on a task when it can be done in 10 mins?

There is a forum in Xero whereby hundreds of people have ask the same thing.... eg why do we have to take a photo of a printed invoice and upload it for analysis why not just email it straight to the system (it wont let you)
Aha, with some interim checking I get it.

andyb28

812 posts

125 months

Sunday 17th March
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What exactly is being emailed?
Is it likely stuff that Dext could handle?

Email isn't a great platform to have in the middle.
However, if thats your only way, take a look at Zapier and Power Automate as tools that can help you achieve what you want to do.

Eric Mc

122,856 posts

272 months

Sunday 17th March
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The old adage in accounting always holds true - if you can't be correct, at least be consistent.

wombleh

1,917 posts

129 months

Sunday 17th March
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Be a bit easy to abuse that and there’s plenty of folk around who would do it just for ”fun”.

There are platforms where people can submit invoices electronically after going through a brief registration and setup, like hicx. There’s also things like quickbooks that can email out invoices and take payment via a web link, that then gets put onto your books.

grumbas

1,051 posts

198 months

Sunday 17th March
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I use Xero, you can set up an email address in Xero that you forward invoices to as received.

Xero will then extract what it can and save it as a draft bill for correction (if needed) and approval.

I find it's pretty good with any sort of standard invoice template (eg Microsoft invoices) but can struggle with anything very bespoke (eg a small business knocking something up in Word).

Certainly a big time saver.

Does anyone use Xero that's found a solution for auto-generating bills based on a PDF? Several platforms I use don't email bills so I have to download and key them in manually. It seems odd they don't make the email parser available for uploaded bills too.

BGARK

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5,538 posts

253 months

Sunday 17th March
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andyb28 said:
What exactly is being emailed?
Is it likely stuff that Dext could handle?

Email isn't a great platform to have in the middle.
However, if thats your only way, take a look at Zapier and Power Automate as tools that can help you achieve what you want to do.
Most suppliers email us invoices, few post, thus another manual process is to type this into software, seems pointless if it can be automated.

Dext looks interesting, thanks for that.

Zapier is something are looking at testing also.




BGARK

Original Poster:

5,538 posts

253 months

Sunday 17th March
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grumbas said:
I use Xero, you can set up an email address in Xero that you forward invoices to as received.

Xero will then extract what it can and save it as a draft bill for correction (if needed) and approval.

I find it's pretty good with any sort of standard invoice template (eg Microsoft invoices) but can struggle with anything very bespoke (eg a small business knocking something up in Word).
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That's interesting, I assumed Xero could not do this.... is there a particular area or setting you could direct me to, thanks, does it work from the body text also, (eg an Amazon invoice)

Mr Pointy

11,840 posts

166 months

Sunday 17th March
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BGARK said:
grumbas said:
I use Xero, you can set up an email address in Xero that you forward invoices to as received.

Xero will then extract what it can and save it as a draft bill for correction (if needed) and approval.

I find it's pretty good with any sort of standard invoice template (eg Microsoft invoices) but can struggle with anything very bespoke (eg a small business knocking something up in Word).
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That's interesting, I assumed Xero could not do this.... is there a particular area or setting you could direct me to, thanks, does it work from the body text also, (eg an Amazon invoice)
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https://central.xero.com/s/article/Email-PDF-bills...

https://central.xero.com/s/article/Hubdoc-in-Xero?...

48k

13,976 posts

155 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I use EzzyBills with Xero to process supplier invoices. Supplier emails me an invoice. I forward the email to my Ezzybills email address. A few seconds later a draft bill with the invoice as an attachment is in Xero for me to approve.

LB14

284 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Ezzybills sounds similar to Dext

I’ve set many clients up on Dext, emailing invoices in is the best way to get the info in.

I once had a client that had several hundred invoices a month from a supplier, which she was manually entering in Sage.

Transferred her onto Xero and linked up Dext, switched on Autopublish for that supplier and she never had to ‘enter’ a single invoice again from them, saved her many hours per month. She thought I was God after that !

LooneyTunes

7,584 posts

165 months

Wednesday 20th March
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BGARK said:
grumbas said:
I use Xero, you can set up an email address in Xero that you forward invoices to as received.

Xero will then extract what it can and save it as a draft bill for correction (if needed) and approval.

I find it's pretty good with any sort of standard invoice template (eg Microsoft invoices) but can struggle with anything very bespoke (eg a small business knocking something up in Word).
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That's interesting, I assumed Xero could not do this.... is there a particular area or setting you could direct me to, thanks, does it work from the body text also, (eg an Amazon invoice)
Doesn’t work from body text of emails (unless very recent updated) but if you print the email to pdf and then email it, that usually works.

If you buy from online supplies regularly, it can be worth checking if you can download invoices in pdf. There are a couple we use that email text invoices but have pdfs if you log in to their system.

Sunday Drive

222 posts

27 months

Wednesday 20th March
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We are doing what you describe using icompleat linked to Xero. Icompleat is also our PO and PI approval system.

Feel free to reach out if you’d like to know more.

Mr Overheads

2,489 posts

183 months

Wednesday 20th March
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Dext - previously known as ReceiptBank - does this. We email all invoices and emails containign purchase inforamtion to Dext. Dext auto-extracts, we then manually check every one, then click a submit button, which then auto-submits it to Xero into the correct accounting code.

Eric Mc

122,856 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th March
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There are two sides to every accounting entry - that's why it's called "double entry". All these systems will perform a "double entry" transaction for each item posted.

For example, if it's a supplier's invoice, the entry should go to the relevant profit and loss or balance sheet category (material, purchases, overheads, fixed assets etc) and also to the supplier's ledger account as a liability.

If it's a bank payment, the two entries would be a reduction in funds in the bank and a charge either to a profit and loss or balance sheet heading or an offset against a supplier's ledger account.

I'm not always sure if non-accountants or non-bookkeepers appreciate correctly how these transactions are supposed to be handled. And consequently, they don't understand whether these automated softaware systems are doing the right thing with the postings.

For accountants, unscrambling the mess made by computerised bookkeeping systems is more complex and time consuming than sorting out accounts from simple summaries and spreadsheets.

Mammasaid

4,322 posts

104 months

Wednesday 20th March
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grumbas said:
I use Xero, you can set up an email address in Xero that you forward invoices to as received.

Xero will then extract what it can and save it as a draft bill for correction (if needed) and approval.

I find it's pretty good with any sort of standard invoice template (eg Microsoft invoices) but can struggle with anything very bespoke (eg a small business knocking something up in Word).

Certainly a big time saver.

Does anyone use Xero that's found a solution for auto-generating bills based on a PDF? Several platforms I use don't email bills so I have to download and key them in manually. It seems odd they don't make the email parser available for uploaded bills too.
Thank you!

You've just saved me a day's work per quarter in entering bills from pdfs.

grumbas

1,051 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th March
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Eric Mc said:
There are two sides to every accounting entry - that's why it's called "double entry". All these systems will perform a "double entry" transaction for each item posted.

For example, if it's a supplier's invoice, the entry should go to the relevant profit and loss or balance sheet category (material, purchases, overheads, fixed assets etc) and also to the supplier's ledger account as a liability.

If it's a bank payment, the two entries would be a reduction in funds in the bank and a charge either to a profit and loss or balance sheet heading or an offset against a supplier's ledger account.

I'm not always sure if non-accountants or non-bookkeepers appreciate correctly how these transactions are supposed to be handled. And consequently, they don't understand whether these automated softaware systems are doing the right thing with the postings.

For accountants, unscrambling the mess made by computerised bookkeeping systems is more complex and time consuming than sorting out accounts from simple summaries and spreadsheets.
So the Xero tool just tries to minimise the time it takes to enter a suppliers invoice.

Without automation to enter a suppliers invoice you'd have to search for the correct supplier, diligently copy from the invoice received the dates, refereneces, key in any line items (allocated to the correct account) with amounts, etc.

What Xero does is take a forwarded email and automatically extract all that data from the attached PDF invoice and generate a draft suppliers invoice (or bill to pay in Xero terminology) for approval. So nothing changes in the way the accounting system works, it's just using modern tech to streamline processes.

Another big time saver is the Xero bank feed to streamline reconciliation.

Dohnut

583 posts

53 months

Wednesday 20th March
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Pleanty of AP invoice automation tools availalble and most use OCR (optical character recognition) tech to read the doc and populate the relevant fields in your accouting software (invoice number/date/amount etc).