Two contracts awarded, payment messed up

Two contracts awarded, payment messed up

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Hammersia

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Wednesday 25th October 2023
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We won two tenders from one organization in Norway to supply two identical specialised pieces of equipment to two of their locations, each worth about £50,000.

We supplied the goods however we were a bit late with both pieces of equipment, there were provisions in the contracts to deduct money for this.

One of the customer locations paid the full amount, we then a week later received a legal letter advising we would not be paid in full due to late delivery (deduction of £6,000 per machine). In other words it appears the customer location that had already paid in full had made a mistake.

As the customer had already paid for one location (one contract) in full, they took double the amount off the other piece of equipment. A different contract. I include two screenshots of bits of the contracts:

|https://thumbsnap.com/E9L36hRb
|https://thumbsnap.com/8pQaU3h2

(The lateness wasn't entirely our fault, we could argue elements of force majeure.)

Where do we stand contractually now? Surely they can't just take money off a separate contract to make up for their mistake? As it stands this is likely to cause us big auditing problems at the least.

Cheers

MustangGT

12,047 posts

286 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
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Can you not assign part of the full payment to the second contract. Your wording implies it is all one customer, therefore you can assign as you wish.

jonsp

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162 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
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Hammersia said:
A different contract.
But with the same organisation just to 2 different sites.

In that case what's happened seems perfectly reasonable.

Countdown

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202 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
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Hammersia said:
(The lateness wasn't entirely our fault, we could argue elements of force majeure.)

Where do we stand contractually now? Surely they can't just take money off a separate contract to make up for their mistake? As it stands this is likely to cause us big auditing problems at the least.

Cheers
It's not an "auditing problem" for them as there will be an audit trail at their end. It shouldn't be a problem at your end either as others have pointed out.

What's the issue? You say that both deliveries were late and that the client is entitled to deduct money if the deliveries were late so I'm not sure what the problem is (unless you were hoping to benefit from their error)?

Hammersia

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Countdown said:
It's not an "auditing problem" for them as there will be an audit trail at their end. It shouldn't be a problem at your end either as others have pointed out.

What's the issue? You say that both deliveries were late and that the client is entitled to deduct money if the deliveries were late so I'm not sure what the problem is (unless you were hoping to benefit from their error)?
Well, contract is a contract, looks well dodgy to me.


Mr Pointy

11,689 posts

165 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
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Was it one purchase order or two?

Countdown

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Wednesday 25th October 2023
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Hammersia

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Wednesday 25th October 2023
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Mr Pointy said:
Was it one purchase order or two?
Two purchase orders, which were two notification of contract awards.

Hammersia

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Countdown said:
That's interesting, thanks

GT03ROB

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227 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
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The first question is really do you accept that they were right to deduct the sums in the first place for either or both machines. If you do, then its a moot point about there being two contracts If you are in dispute about the deduct in the first then you had best resolve this first before worrying about fixing the accounting issues. .

Collectingbrass

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201 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
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Hammersia said:
Countdown said:
That's interesting, thanks
What Law set rules the contract terms; English, Norwegian or something else?

Hammersia

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Collectingbrass said:
Hammersia said:
Countdown said:
That's interesting, thanks
What Law set rules the contract terms; English, Norwegian or something else?
According to the contract Norwegian Law.

Collectingbrass

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201 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
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Hammersia said:
Collectingbrass said:
Hammersia said:
Countdown said:
That's interesting, thanks
What Law set rules the contract terms; English, Norwegian or something else?
According to the contract Norwegian Law.
I asked because it may be that Norwegian Law doesn't enable set off rights, I don't know because I am not a lawyer and I definitely am not a Norwegian Lawyer. If you're accepting the principal of a cost reduction due to late delivery you probably need to get your English accountant to solve your book keeping problem (I'm not an international finance accountant either...). If you want to fight the principal of set off in the way it has been applied you'll need a Norwegian lawyer obviously, and the odds are it's not worth it.

I do know people who might make a better job of getting the next order out there on time though :-)