What does HMRC class as used for BIK

What does HMRC class as used for BIK

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DSLiverpool

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15,035 posts

208 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Looking at an ev company car to soak up some money.

I think I read an ex demo was ok as long as no private owner but I can’t see this online.

What do hmrc class as not new?

isleofthorns

518 posts

176 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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am guessing if you're (or your company) are not the first registered keeper, then it's not new.

tbh, not sure it really matters. only difference is how the asset is offset / depreciated against tax, but the end result is much the same

DSLiverpool

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208 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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isleofthorns said:
am guessing if you're (or your company) are not the first registered keeper, then it's not new.

tbh, not sure it really matters. only difference is how the asset is offset / depreciated against tax, but the end result is much the same
But the BIK to the user is significant I’m sure

Gnevans

469 posts

128 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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If it is demo/vat qualifying it is ok.

DSLiverpool

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Friday 8th September 2023
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Gnevans said:
If it is demo/vat qualifying it is ok.
Ta

Seventy-Eight

372 posts

186 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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DSLiverpool said:
But the BIK to the user is significant I’m sure
BIK is always based on original list cost including options, so new / used is irrelevant

100% first year allowance for corp tax is dependent on whether new / used

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Cars (apart from electric cars) do not qualify for 100% Capital Allowances.

DSLiverpool

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Eric Mc said:
Cars (apart from electric cars) do not qualify for 100% Capital Allowances.
It’s an EV Eric - I don’t want one as such but the consultancy business is heading for a big Corp tax bill I need to dissipate.


wattsm666

698 posts

271 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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As stated above BIK is based on list price, nothing to do with used/new or ex-demo.

Capital allowances is based on new or ex-demo. I think the only way to be sure it is an ex-demo is that it has only had one owner (being the dealer).

DSLiverpool

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Saturday 9th September 2023
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wattsm666 said:
As stated above BIK is based on list price, nothing to do with used/new or ex-demo.

Capital allowances is based on new or ex-demo. I think the only way to be sure it is an ex-demo is that it has only had one owner (being the dealer).
Got it, thanks

Jockman

17,988 posts

166 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Dave I’d be looking at pensions before EV if you’re worried about the corp tax.

Remember your corp tax bill this year will be a blended rate with many companies not hitting the full 25% until next year.

DSLiverpool

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Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Jockman said:
Dave I’d be looking at pensions before EV if you’re worried about the corp tax.

Remember your corp tax bill this year will be a blended rate with many companies not hitting the full 25% until next year.
I agree, I’ve just done the half year accounts so we can see what it’s going to look like.

I’m panicking a bit as it’s always been a side line but it’s just got pretty serious last 2 months and it’s caught me by surprise.

Another factor is I’ll also be going to Scotland monthly for at least a year and can’t rely on the old Rangey for that.


Pit Pony

9,117 posts

127 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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DSLiverpool said:
Eric Mc said:
Cars (apart from electric cars) do not qualify for 100% Capital Allowances.
It’s an EV Eric - I don’t want one as such but the consultancy business is heading for a big Corp tax bill I need to dissipate.
Company pension contributions always made my corporate tax tiny.

Jockman

17,988 posts

166 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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DSLiverpool said:
I agree, I’ve just done the half year accounts so we can see what it’s going to look like.

I’m panicking a bit as it’s always been a side line but it’s just got pretty serious last 2 months and it’s caught me by surprise.

Another factor is I’ll also be going to Scotland monthly for at least a year and can’t rely on the old Rangey for that.
No worries mate. Might be worth having a look at ur company structure too. Take advantage of other people’s allowances etc.

You also know I have 3 model S teslas going to auction in 12 months time.