PA to the Director - how much can I ask them to do?

PA to the Director - how much can I ask them to do?

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2,398 posts

144 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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boyse7en

7,124 posts

172 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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advertise outside your kids' school.
Lots of people looking for jobs that fit in around school drop off and collect times.

deebs

555 posts

67 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Someone who works part time, a few hours a day, but can't have kids of their own who need school run because they are needed to do yours, and who has run a business before so they can hit the ground running or run things while you are tied up.

Tough job spec smile

Castrol for a knave

5,300 posts

98 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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If you want a professional PA, then you should be able to find one who can work say 3 days a week. Older PA's who may not want 5 days a week looking after toddlers, sorry, Directors, but who still want to earn, keep their skills and enjoy working.

I wouldn't expect a PA to be dropping off and picking up kids.

A good PA is part CEO, part client whisperer and HR, part regimental sergeant major and part velociraptor.

StevieBee

13,592 posts

262 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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This is who you need:



Joking aside, I think that such a person is normally drawn from your personal networks; a friend's friend's wife, that type of thing.

Don't be presumptive on the gender either. I had a retired copper work on a project for me a while back who, had he lived closer, would have been a brilliant right-hand-man-of-all-things.

sinbaddio

2,446 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Someone who has kids at the same school? Can combine the school runs and work in between. Put and ad in the next school update/magazine etc

Jockinthebox

149 posts

106 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Not sure where in the country you are, but have come across the role/job you describe often.

I’d recommend contacting a local private household staffing agency, they will be able to help you with job description ect.


Good luck.

Panamax

5,102 posts

41 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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If you're getting your PA to run kids to school that has nothing whatsoever to do with their "employment". As such, you're simply putting one past the tax-man by claiming personal stuff as if it's a business activity. This is plum centre in "taxable benefit" territory.

If any company I worked for ever asked me to do personal stuff for my superiors as part of the job I'd be straight out looking for a better job.

Takemeaway

625 posts

218 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I'd be looking for a part time office manager. This could open up your options for the role and responsibilities

craigjm

18,482 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Don’t mix business needs with personal needs

How old are these teenage kids? Do they really need taking to and picking up from school?

MustangGT

12,301 posts

287 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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What does your other half do? Seems like a perfect role for them.

loskie

5,669 posts

127 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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or maybe the school bus driver

OMITN

2,406 posts

99 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I recall a former boss - managing director of a well known technology company - calling her new PA on a Sunday lunchtime to request the PA stop what she was doing (having lunch with her family) and drive across London to Heathrow to pick up a package.

The PA don’t return on Monday.

48k

13,989 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I'd be looking for a retired person who wants to top up their income / get out of the house / keep their brain active.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

115 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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craigjm said:
Don’t mix business needs with personal needs
That, it looks like you're looking for a PA and an Au Pair. They definitely shouldn't be the same person.

Castrol for a knave

5,300 posts

98 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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hehe thanks all.

We moved house so daughter schools across county borders. My son now walks to school (move was better for him). I thought the lack of office help applicants may be as not enough hours - hence the suggested longer days with school runs. I'd get daughter a taxi if there was a properly reliable one (plus you have to park up early PM to get a space so half hour waiting about).

Mrs 22 has been poorly (although currently well) and one day I will need to have ducks in a row as I will care for her as long as needed. I love my job but it falls quickly out of my priorities at times. That's not fair on the workers who completely rely on me.
Sounds like you need a general assistant and I agree, someone of retirement age who can help with the kids, given the circumstances and also pick up more general admin. Could be a perfect job for someone.

PA's are notoriously defensive of their role. Quickest way to piss one off is call them admin. I know, I am married to one. She formidable in her work ethic and her character. Worked as PA to several FTSE 100 CEO's for 30 years and it gets her riled (and makes my nose bleed) every time I call her a typist.

Panamax

5,102 posts

41 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Castrol for a knave said:
someone of retirement age who can help with the kids
It's supposed to be a "business employment", not "helping with the kids".

As someone mentioned above, there's a significant difference between a "Personal Assistant" and an "Au Pair".

vaud

52,402 posts

162 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Define the functions and support that you need.

Then map them to what is probably two roles.

MR2 Steve

361 posts

114 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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22 said:
hehe thanks all.

We moved house so daughter schools across county borders. My son now walks to school (move was better for him). I thought the lack of office help applicants may be as not enough hours - hence the suggested longer days with school runs. I'd get daughter a taxi if there was a properly reliable one (plus you have to park up early PM to get a space so half hour waiting about).

Mrs 22 has been poorly (although currently well) and one day I will need to have ducks in a row as I will care for her as long as needed. I love my job but it falls quickly out of my priorities at times. That's not fair on the workers who completely rely on me.
When I read this it looks like you could take on the role you’re trying to recruit for and recruit a full time MD/COO to take over the headaches and you float in out as you please.

bearman68

4,795 posts

139 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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I have someone like this who helps me. Used to be a CEO, but gave it up to spend more time with the kids, and then got a bit bored. She works school hours somewhere between 2 and 4 days a week depending on company commitments and that of her family.
I'm sure if I asked her to drop my kids off somewhere, she probably would - but that's because in the year or so she has been working with me, she has become a bit of a friend, and would do it as a favour, but I can't see it being a regular thing.

I thought I was just about coping, but in reality, I was being slowly buried. Having help in admin / business support is a very worthwhile thing. It eases the stress of being the one person in charge as well. That's worth a bit.