Building costs for a block of flats

Building costs for a block of flats

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mahmoodhassan

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1 posts

35 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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vdn

8,979 posts

210 months

Wednesday 8th December 2021
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Couple of million all the way up to 'sky's the limit!'

MustangGT

12,287 posts

287 months

Thursday 9th December 2021
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Do you already have the land with planning permission? Do you have a dedicated team of builders? Do you have access to materials at trade prices? Etc. etc. How long is a piece of string?

BGARK

5,538 posts

253 months

Thursday 9th December 2021
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There is probably a per meter squared price as a rule of thumb, someone might be able to offer a sensible reply?

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 9th December 2021
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There are people who have entire careers figuring out the cost of building stuff. It's not something you're going to find an answer to on a car forum. Too many variables.

MattyD803

1,842 posts

72 months

Thursday 9th December 2021
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Certainly an interesting first post....

dudleybloke

20,476 posts

193 months

Thursday 9th December 2021
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20647.065BTC.


Freshprince

216 posts

62 months

Thursday 9th December 2021
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I’ll help. Last apartment scheme I appraised was back in 2018 and was a 200 unit apartment scheme over 6 blocks and worked out at £185ps.ft for build cost excluding technical costs (utilities, ground investigations etc). On top of this there are planning/design costs and many other costs but how long is a piece of string as said above.

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2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,589 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th December 2021
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Freshprince said:
a 200 unit apartment scheme over 6 blocks and worked out at £185 for build cost excluding technical
That's really good value. hehe

C-J

227 posts

58 months

Thursday 9th December 2021
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Freshprince said:
a 200 unit apartment scheme over 6 blocks and worked out at £185 for build cost excluding technical
That's really good value. hehe
It always amazes me how much 'trade discount' can be worth - as a private individual when I purchased a load of bricks it was more than that (around £400) just for 1 pallet. Us private punters are being ripped off!

BoRED S2upid

20,346 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th December 2021
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Freshprince said:
I’ll help. Last apartment scheme I appraised was back in 2018 and was a 200 unit apartment scheme over 6 blocks and worked out at £185 for build cost excluding technical
Costs (utilities, ground investigations etc). On top of this there is any planning/design costs and many other but how ling is a piece of string as said above.
I wonder what he meant to say. Surely not £185m or £185,000. £18.5m maybe, less than £100k per unit.

Freshprince

216 posts

62 months

Thursday 9th December 2021
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Also, if you are serious and not done comparable schemes to guide you on costs, then get a high-level feasilbilty cost plan done through likes of www.bhangals.co.uk.

Equus

16,980 posts

108 months

Friday 10th December 2021
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Freshprince said:
I’ll help. Last apartment scheme I appraised was back in 2018 and was a 200 unit apartment scheme over 6 blocks and worked out at £185ps.ft for build cost excluding technical costs (utilities, ground investigations etc). On top of this there are planning/design costs and many other costs but how long is a piece of string as said above.
Not to mention that build costs have shifted by about 30% since 2018, due to Covid, Brexit and consequent materials and labour shortages and increases in energy costs... wink

Seriously, we're all just guessing without a much more thorough analysis of the design, site constraints, etc.

Give a QS a set of the drawings and a couple of £thousand and you might get an answer that isn't completely pin-the-tail-on- the-donkey.

HocusPocus

1,126 posts

108 months

Friday 10th December 2021
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If the OP needs to ask this question on an internet forum, then he should wear two sets of underwear to every construction/project meeting. Pants will be pulled down.

Development is not simple or cheap.

vindaloo79

1,009 posts

87 months

Friday 10th December 2021
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mahmoodhassan said:
Would anyone know roughly how much it would cost to build a flat development from scratch in the postcode IG5 0EG.
Say, for example, a three storey building, consisting of 9 apartments, mainly two bedroom?
I am not expecting an accurate figure, but an approximation would be really helpful.

Feel free to pm me if this is your area of expertise
I have no idea but I’m keen to guess. £240k * 9 apartments * 80% to allow for 20 profit margin

£1.72 million. +/- 25%. Depending on parking spaces.

Based solely on the price of the first apartment prices I saw on rightmove and a google of builders margins

spikeyhead

17,975 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th December 2021
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vindaloo79 said:
mahmoodhassan said:
Would anyone know roughly how much it would cost to build a flat development from scratch in the postcode IG5 0EG.
Say, for example, a three storey building, consisting of 9 apartments, mainly two bedroom?
I am not expecting an accurate figure, but an approximation would be really helpful.

Feel free to pm me if this is your area of expertise
I have no idea but I’m keen to guess. £240k * 9 apartments * 80% to allow for 20 profit margin

£1.72 million. +/- 25%. Depending on parking spaces.

Based solely on the price of the first apartment prices I saw on rightmove and a google of builders margins
That would include land costs.

vindaloo79

1,009 posts

87 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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spikeyhead said:
That would include land costs.
Ah. That’s numberwang!

loafer123

15,667 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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I’m late to this discussion, and the data is a little out of date in a year of massive change, but my go-to reference for questions like this is Riders Digest;

https://www.rlb.com/europe/insight/riders-digest-u...

Equus

16,980 posts

108 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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loafer123 said:
I’m late to this discussion, and the data is a little out of date in a year of massive change, but my go-to reference for questions like this is Riders Digest;

https://www.rlb.com/europe/insight/riders-digest-u...
Spons is better, being much more comprehensive - 820 pages versus the 85 pages of Rider's - and is the 'industry standard' used by most QS's, but:

a) Any sort of composite figure of overall cost per m2 will be necessarily vague, because it can't take into account the specifics of the design and site and;
b) Actual contract prices are all over the shop at the moment, with individual contractors applying their own weighting according to individual guesswork on which way the market and materials prices are heading.

The spinner of plates

17,955 posts

207 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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In my experience lots of time, effort and money will go into planning and initial costings.

The final product is never quite as envisioned at the start and the final cost never truly understood by any one person.

The precise methodology is called Bistromaths.

Half of the people will think the project went well, will consider it ‘a nice little earner’ and alliances will form to work together again.
The other half will think it was a shambles, be convinced they were under paid / ripped off and be bitter about it every time they drive past.

Edited by The spinner of plates on Sunday 12th December 10:38