Fred and Ginger
Discussion
OK, I know you're probably wondering if I have an accountant with all the questions but my accountant mulls things over for days.
Fred and ginger own company A. Fred owns 90% Ginger owns 10%
Fred and ginger also own company B, Fred 50%, Ginger 50%.
Now, Fred and Ginger want to merge companies B with A.
Bearing in mind they are both Micro business, what's the simplest way of doing so that will allow Fred & Ginger to own fair shares in the new bigger company A
Fred and ginger own company A. Fred owns 90% Ginger owns 10%
Fred and ginger also own company B, Fred 50%, Ginger 50%.
Now, Fred and Ginger want to merge companies B with A.
Bearing in mind they are both Micro business, what's the simplest way of doing so that will allow Fred & Ginger to own fair shares in the new bigger company A
OK, both companies make roughly the same profits (£50K each)
Company A has assets worth £80k, company B has assets of virtually £0.
Outcome needs to be a fair calulation (from inland rev point of view if nothing else) for the merging of the two companies.
>> Edited by aceparts_com on Monday 27th June 14:32
Company A has assets worth £80k, company B has assets of virtually £0.
Outcome needs to be a fair calulation (from inland rev point of view if nothing else) for the merging of the two companies.
>> Edited by aceparts_com on Monday 27th June 14:32
I say again - define "fair".
What is your desired outcome? Apart from merging the two businesses, do you want the end result to be that both shareholders have a 50:50 share in the new merged company or do you want some other split of ownership?
Whatever the outcome, if it is seen that you are "giving" away a share of the company which has some value, the Inland Revenue might want to take issue with you on that, especially given their recent interest in husabnd/wife companies and "Settlements" as set out under Section 660a. This could not only affect the Revenue's view on the actual transfer of the shares but also the taxation of subsequent dividends.
What is your desired outcome? Apart from merging the two businesses, do you want the end result to be that both shareholders have a 50:50 share in the new merged company or do you want some other split of ownership?
Whatever the outcome, if it is seen that you are "giving" away a share of the company which has some value, the Inland Revenue might want to take issue with you on that, especially given their recent interest in husabnd/wife companies and "Settlements" as set out under Section 660a. This could not only affect the Revenue's view on the actual transfer of the shares but also the taxation of subsequent dividends.
OK, to be not seen as giving anything away is what I mean by fair. - Won't later get shafted by Mr Tax man
Does this seam 'fair'
Co A NEW-A Co B
Profit £50 £100 £50
Assets £80 £90 £10
Liab's -£25 -£20 £5
Total £105 £170 £65
Fred % 90 70 50
Value 94.5 127 32.5
Ginger %10 30 50
Value 10.5 43 32.5
Does this seam 'fair'
Co A NEW-A Co B
Profit £50 £100 £50
Assets £80 £90 £10
Liab's -£25 -£20 £5
Total £105 £170 £65
Fred % 90 70 50
Value 94.5 127 32.5
Ginger %10 30 50
Value 10.5 43 32.5
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