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PetrolTed

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34,443 posts

310 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Anyone in this field?

john75

5,303 posts

254 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Try Eversheds they do that kind of thing

PetrolTed

Original Poster:

34,443 posts

310 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Was after a quick bit of PHer-to-PHer advice really

2 Smokin Barrels

30,611 posts

242 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Not an expert, but plenty of experience.

PetrolTed

Original Poster:

34,443 posts

310 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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Employer+employee Seeking clarification of a redundancy scenario

2 Smokin Barrels

30,611 posts

242 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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I've made a few hundred redundant over the years.

Is there a specific "hypothetical" question?

>> Edited by 2 Smokin Barrels on Tuesday 5th April 21:15

Hughesie2

12,592 posts

289 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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PetrolTed said:
Employer+employee Seeking clarification of a redundancy scenario

would depend on LOS (length of Service Etc)

surely the Mrs would know Ted

edc

9,316 posts

258 months

Tuesday 5th April 2005
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apguy

827 posts

255 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Ted, if you remember from our drunken days in DD's, my wife is MCIPD qualified HR bod.

PM me if it's still necessary.

shadowninja

77,497 posts

289 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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john75 said:
Eversheds


just as well they do well in the legal trade... they'd never have made it selling cars with a name like that

sb-1

3,321 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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Leading on form this what is the best way to weed out unwanted people on a maybe tempory basis?(as they may need to replaced by others?)

Cheers

Steve

Ex-biker

1,315 posts

254 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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PetrolTed said:
Employer+employee Seeking clarification of a redundancy scenario


Short version:

Employee has lots of rights.
Employer needs a bl**dy good reason.

dubbs

1,590 posts

291 months

Wednesday 6th April 2005
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You'd be suprised. In the UK/US the employee doesn't have as much as they think. Europe is a mix of either US/UK thinking or they go the other way into Worker's councils and effectively union-style agreements.

I'm having to work on this as part of a rather huge global project I'm working on and it's a very tricky field.

UK redundancy laws suck! Netherlands however... they have to guarantee work for the employee and pay them off!

stesrg

1,571 posts

245 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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PetrolTed said:
Employer+employee Seeking clarification of a redundancy scenario


Do yo want to pay out or not !!! eh.
Ste.

Mark.S

473 posts

284 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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sb-1 said:
Leading on form this what is the best way to weed out unwanted people on a maybe tempory basis?(as they may need to replaced by others?)


I'm pretty sure you can sack anyone for any reason (or none!) during their first year of employment. After a years service they gain some rights to redundancy, reason for dismisal etc.

stesrg

1,571 posts

245 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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If you have an unwanted time waster, hold the work back abit or wait till it is slack, and say to them these words SORRY BUT I WILL HAVE TO LAY YOU OFF UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, 3 weeks and their is still no work sorry by this time the they will be looking for another job .
As I had this stunt pulled on me several years ago I went to the CAB who said their is nothing we can do as you have not been sacked, certainly new I had to get a job asap.
Their you go..........
Ste...

apguy

827 posts

255 months

Saturday 9th April 2005
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I sympathise with the above reply. However whilst it may have occurred in the past the new Disciplinary and Grievance Procedure which became a legal requirement for ALL companies from Nov 2004 should prevent this scenario.