New comapny or sole trader?

New comapny or sole trader?

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shirepro

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11,827 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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I have a chance to get a new client on board, but don't have th capacity (space, time etc).

I have someone who works for me on a self employed basis and was thinking about suggesting to her that she might want to take the business on in some sort of joint venture with me. I don't have the time to have day to day hands-on control but the contract would come my way based upon my experience to oversee business processes and advise the clients as and when (which the lady isn't qualified legally to do. She would provide day to day control, space, IT etc. The turnover of the new venture probably won't hit the VAT threshold.

Question is, if I effectively set up a business doing exactky what I am already doing but with this new person will the VAT and tax man insist they are run under the existing company, and if not, would a new limited company or a partnership work best? If we move work between businesses in busy and quiet times would that bring the tax and VAT man down on us?

Eric Mc

122,861 posts

272 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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The VAT people are aware that people sometimes split business in order to keep one or both activities under the compulsory VAT registration threshold (£58,000). They call it disaggregation and it is technically illegal - if proved.

Certainly, a sole trader trying to split his business into separate activities could come under scrutiny from the VAT people. However, if one of those activities is run on a different basis (i.e apartnership or a ltd co., then it is much less likely that disaggregation could be claimed.

However, on a more fundamental issue, do you want to hand substantial or complete comtrol of one of your businesses to a relative outsider?

shirepro

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Friday 18th March 2005
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If I don't go down this route I think will have to pass by the work all together. The infrastructure for my present business won't stretch any more without making the big step of taking on staff and having proper offices (I work from home) which I don't want to do.

Eric Mc

122,861 posts

272 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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I'm actually in the same boat myself now so I am rather choosy about the type of client/customer I take on. It's actually very nice to be in this position.

shirepro

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242 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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The temptation is to 'franchise' where they provide the basic admin (which is tried and tested now) and day-to-day customer face, and I will QA, advise and pick-up the mess when it goes wrong. The other side of it is that thse other businesses may actually accrue a value more than my expertise, which at some point I could sell to another professional in my line of business. At the moment, when I decide to call it a day 'Me.inc; will just close because the demand is full time.