Discussion
Myself and business partner have a number of patents (both granted, and in the 'application' process) in a variety of business environments. However due to circumstances (which are valid and completly above board) we are unable to progress with exploring the possibilties of one of the applications. This is concerned with VoIP (Voice over IP) and PSTN call routing. Essentially we have developed a system that enables residential calls to be made, with no change to the users normal calling behaviour (as in, no prefixes to dial) over IP or PSTN...and can significanlty reduce the cost of calls...
The market for this technology is typically ISPs, who are supplying broadband services to their customers, and who may want to enter the fixed telephony market place. The technology that we have protected sits within the ADSL router that sits between the users PC and the BT wall socket.
We are looking for someone who has a reasonable understanding of the ISP marketplace, who can see the benefits of the application, and can take the idea to the market and generate the licensing possibilities. The rewards, as with all things in life, are based on results. It would be a share of the revenues that would be recieved from licensing this to the ISP.
If you have an interest in finding out a little more, or want to discuss further either post here, and if appropriate I will answer, or PM me.
Thanks for reading.
David
The market for this technology is typically ISPs, who are supplying broadband services to their customers, and who may want to enter the fixed telephony market place. The technology that we have protected sits within the ADSL router that sits between the users PC and the BT wall socket.
We are looking for someone who has a reasonable understanding of the ISP marketplace, who can see the benefits of the application, and can take the idea to the market and generate the licensing possibilities. The rewards, as with all things in life, are based on results. It would be a share of the revenues that would be recieved from licensing this to the ISP.
If you have an interest in finding out a little more, or want to discuss further either post here, and if appropriate I will answer, or PM me.
Thanks for reading.
David
We have had Voice over IP for ages at work, how is your system different?
Why do you have to market via an ISP?
surely selling to a home office, SME basis would enable you to build a reputation and brand, before going for the resi market.
Just a thought, I have a contact who might be interested, He is involved in Comms. Tell me more about the idea, and I can pass it on.
If you prefer, mail me through my profile.
Thanks, David
Why do you have to market via an ISP?
surely selling to a home office, SME basis would enable you to build a reputation and brand, before going for the resi market.
Just a thought, I have a contact who might be interested, He is involved in Comms. Tell me more about the idea, and I can pass it on.
If you prefer, mail me through my profile.
Thanks, David
VoIP at work is easy. At home it is a different story. The residential user is used to picking up their DECT or cordless phone, and dialling the number. If they want to make a VoIP call from home at the moment, they would have to make this call via their PC. Big difference!
The reason to market through a channel (ISP) is that they
1. Already have customers
2. Already have brand
3. Are already putting equipment in the user's home (ADSL routers)
4. Want to sell more services to consumers with as little cost associated with that sell as possible
I have a 'one pager' that describes the system in more detail. I will check its contents and email it to you.
Thanks
D.
The reason to market through a channel (ISP) is that they
1. Already have customers
2. Already have brand
3. Are already putting equipment in the user's home (ADSL routers)
4. Want to sell more services to consumers with as little cost associated with that sell as possible
I have a 'one pager' that describes the system in more detail. I will check its contents and email it to you.
Thanks
D.
ysnnim said:
VoIP at work is easy. At home it is a different story. The residential user is used to picking up their DECT or cordless phone, and dialling the number. If they want to make a VoIP call from home at the moment, they would have to make this call via their PC. Big difference!
The reason to market through a channel (ISP) is that they
1. Already have customers
2. Already have brand
3. Are already putting equipment in the user's home (ADSL routers)
4. Want to sell more services to consumers with as little cost associated with that sell as possible
I have a 'one pager' that describes the system in more detail. I will check its contents and email it to you.
Thanks
D.
I have e-mailed the guy for you, and will forward your mail on if he is interested... thanks.
Gents,
Thanks for replies. The success of such a service is the simplicity of delivery to the consumer.
Our patent covers a system that enables a consumer to make a telephone call, via their normal PSTN handset, and the system then looks at the dialled digits and can tell if the call should be routed over IP or PSTN. It does not require a new or 'special' handset to be acquired....
The citical element with IP calls is the call will only go over IP if the person being called is technically enabled to recieve IP calls (if you get me drift).
Certainly a trawl on google throws up a whole heap of bits of kit that can be used for VoIP - but are not an end to end system or service. You are changing the callers behaviour...
Happy to supply more detail, but not in quite such a public forum (I know, we have a patent, so we are protected, however there are a variety of ways of exploring this opportunity, and general broadcast to every PHer and their dog is not on my list!)
Cheers
D
Thanks for replies. The success of such a service is the simplicity of delivery to the consumer.
Our patent covers a system that enables a consumer to make a telephone call, via their normal PSTN handset, and the system then looks at the dialled digits and can tell if the call should be routed over IP or PSTN. It does not require a new or 'special' handset to be acquired....
The citical element with IP calls is the call will only go over IP if the person being called is technically enabled to recieve IP calls (if you get me drift).
Certainly a trawl on google throws up a whole heap of bits of kit that can be used for VoIP - but are not an end to end system or service. You are changing the callers behaviour...
Happy to supply more detail, but not in quite such a public forum (I know, we have a patent, so we are protected, however there are a variety of ways of exploring this opportunity, and general broadcast to every PHer and their dog is not on my list!)
Cheers
D
JonRB said:
I'm pretty sure that there is already a telephone handset that you can connect to your PC that allows users to simply use VoIP as if it was a normal telephone.
What exactly is the patent for? If the idea is patented then you will not exactly be giving anything away by saying.
This is already around in the form of adapters and straight USB phones but the OP was talking about connecting to your broadband router directly negating the need for a computer. I thought this already existed though.
Cheers, John
jgmadkit said:
This is already around in the form of adapters and straight USB phones but the OP was talking about connecting to your broadband router directly negating the need for a computer. I thought this already existed though.
As a potential user of this, here's my 4p. I like the idea of telephony over the net = free.
However, as I understand it, at present I will need to be in front of PC connected to broadband internet, and so will anybody I want to ring. That's a big problem.
If there's a way to get the voice down the internet connection without needing to fire up the PC, that's very good - but what happens at the other end?
Hi
As a supplier of IP Telephony it is possible to setup a system that would enable the end user to have a IP Hardphone which would operate over ADSL / VPN which would be independant of any computer hardware. This would require a hosted IP Switch (@ ISP) though which the hardphone would need to connect to initiate an IP call and or normal land line call. Down side would be the cost of the IP Hardphone?! You could use either hardphones or softclients or both!...
>> Edited by nekrum on Thursday 27th January 08:55
As a supplier of IP Telephony it is possible to setup a system that would enable the end user to have a IP Hardphone which would operate over ADSL / VPN which would be independant of any computer hardware. This would require a hosted IP Switch (@ ISP) though which the hardphone would need to connect to initiate an IP call and or normal land line call. Down side would be the cost of the IP Hardphone?! You could use either hardphones or softclients or both!...
>> Edited by nekrum on Thursday 27th January 08:55
Mr Simpo, you've hit part of the nail on the head - the last thing you want is to have to be 'connected' to the PC to make a call. With our system you pick up your normal landline or PSTN network and dial the number - no change in user behaviour at all. As to what happens at the other end, if the call can be made over IP, then it goes over IP, if not, then the call goes over PSTN. Our system knows whether the call can be connected over IP or not.
Mr Nekrum, you are getting there! However no need to change the handset type. No need to have an IP (Soft) Switch.
If you have a real interest in this, PM me.
Cheers
D
Mr Nekrum, you are getting there! However no need to change the handset type. No need to have an IP (Soft) Switch.
If you have a real interest in this, PM me.
Cheers
D
ysnnim said:
Mr Simpo, you've hit part of the nail on the head - the last thing you want is to have to be 'connected' to the PC to make a call. With our system you pick up your normal landline or PSTN network and dial the number - no change in user behaviour at all. As to what happens at the other end, if the call can be made over IP, then it goes over IP, if not, then the call goes over PSTN. Our system knows whether the call can be connected over IP or not.
OK, that's good: I can sit on my comfy sofa and use the normal phone. What requirement is there for the call to go via IP? Will I have to get all my contacts to re-fangle their modems etc?
Indeed, Mr Simpo, you can recline on your button backed velour sofa, and make calls without any need to change your calling behaviour...however as my first post mentioned, we (me and colleague) have the IPR on a system to deliver this - but due to circumstances cannot do this ourselves.
We are currently looking for entrepreneurial types to do this for us..
So far I have had a few responses, which I am following up on....
Thanks.
We are currently looking for entrepreneurial types to do this for us..
So far I have had a few responses, which I am following up on....
Thanks.
Gassing Station | Business | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff