Taxation on small rental income?

Taxation on small rental income?

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adrianr

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822 posts

291 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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I've got an empty lockup that I want to let out. Looking at IR forms, it seems that the rent will be counted as income so I'll get taxed on it, minus any maintenance expenses which makes it hardly worth the bother.

Is there a smarter way to do it?

AdrianR

pdV6

16,442 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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adrianr said:

Is there a smarter way to do it?

Ensure there's plenty of maintenance that needs doing?

Eric Mc

122,858 posts

272 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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Sorry - rental income is taxable just like any other form of income. However, you are only taxed on your rental "profits" i.e. Income less Expenses.

pdV6

16,442 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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Look at it this way: 60% of something is better than 100% of nothing...

icamm

2,153 posts

267 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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Isn't there a limit to rental income before you get taxed? (something like £3000pa) Or is this only for renting houses/letting rooms?

pdV6

16,442 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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icamm said:
Isn't there a limit to rental income before you get taxed? (something like £3000pa) Or is this only for renting houses/letting rooms?


Sounds like the "Rent a Room" scheme - only applies to letting a furnished room in your main dwelling. You get an allowance of £4250 currently, but you can't deduct expenses from this.

>> Edited by pdV6 on Tuesday 21st December 15:42

Eric Mc

122,858 posts

272 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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Renta-Room relief - aimed at income from lodgers, not renting of garages or units.

adrianr

Original Poster:

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291 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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I bought a shipping container to put the stuff in that was in the lockup - don't suppose that counts as an 'expense'?

AdrianR

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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Rent it to a mate, for cash...

Eric Mc

122,858 posts

272 months

Tuesday 21st December 2004
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The "poperty" purchased is generally treated as a capital cost, not an expense. Normal properties are not eligible for tax Capital Aloowances although there are some exeptions (agricultural property, manufacturing premises).

A container in normal circumstances would be eligible for Capital Allowances as an item of Plant and Machinery. There might be the possibility that a container being used as a "store" could also be eligible for Capital Allowances (40% of the cost of the container in the first year and 25% on the reducing balance for each successive year).

adrianr

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822 posts

291 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2004
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Are you talking business taxation now, Eric?

Alternatively, the garage is jointly owned by myself and my wife. Could she (a non taxpayer) receive the rental income?

AdrianR

Eric Mc

122,858 posts

272 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2004
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There is no such thing as "business" taxation when dealing with individuals. An individual is taxed on the income they receive - whether it be salary from a job (Schedule E), profits from a trade (Schedule D Cases I or II), rental income (Schedule A), income from financial investments (bank interest, dividends etc) or gains from sales of large/expensive (capital) property (Capital Gains Tax). The tax a person pays in any given tax year is based on the amalgamation of all income from all sources less the various allowances and reliefs that the individual may be entitled to.

If you are renting out a container as a store, I would hazard a guess that income derived from this activity would fall under Schedule A Rental Income (as opposed to Schedule D Cases I or II trading income). Capital Allowances are generally available for offset against business income (Schedule D) and CAN BE available against Rental Income (Schedule A) but in a much more restricted way. As the container is, in effect, the "Rented Property", the chances of being able to claim Capital Allowances against the Rental Income it generates are slim - in my opinion.

If the garage is jointly owned, at the very least the rental profits should be split 50:50 between yourself and your wife. That might go some way to mitigating the tax liability arising.
If you are "formally" married, you could gift the entire garage to your wife which would make the rental income generated entirely hers. Gifts bewteen spouses are totally ignored for Income Tax or Capital Gains Tax purposes. However, there are other issues involved in "gifting" assets e.g. Inheritance Tax or whether you really would want to pass to your wife your 50% ownership.

This option of gifting is not open to couples who are merely "living together".


>> Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 22 December 10:27

adrianr

Original Poster:

822 posts

291 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2004
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I bought the container as a store for my stuff to free up the garage for rental (and 'cos I no longer live where the garage is) - it still makes sense long term, it's just that paying tax on the income lengthens the payback period.

Splitting the rent is definitely useful, I'll ponder whether I want to re-register it in her name.

Cheers for advice so far,
AdrianR