Knackered Salisbury Diff....HELP

Knackered Salisbury Diff....HELP

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Fish

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3,998 posts

289 months

Sunday 28th March 2004
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Just got the Landy back on the road and I omitted to check the oil in the rear diff...DOH. Anyhow a near seize later I've had the ispection cover off and there just appears to be some wear on the pinion. I've topped up eith oil and am hoping it will revive it, however it still seems noisy.

Does any one know someone who is experienced with Salisbury diff reuilds and can give me some advice an or do a rebuild if its dead.


seaton

400 posts

261 months

Sunday 28th March 2004
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One place that spings to mind is www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/,
As with most things on stage one the rear axel is a bit of a hybrid, its a standard 'series' salisbury axel but with a 3.5:1 diff. Options would be
1) A second hand Stage one axel (rear as rocking horse st)
2) Repair your current Diff (IIRC you need a special tool to streach the casing to get the diff out)
3)Get hold of a 110 diff and fit it to your case
4)Get a series two LWB casing or modify a SWB one (move spring mounts) and fit a 4 pin diff or may be a locking one? (Expesive)
5) Live with it untill it brakes (it's a landy its suposed to be noisy)

steve-p

1,448 posts

289 months

Sunday 28th March 2004
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seaton said:
IIRC you need a special tool to streach the casing to get the diff out

Would that be Land Rover Special Tool No. 1 (a.k.a. a big hammer ), or a really special tool.

seaton

400 posts

261 months

Sunday 28th March 2004
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Not entierly sure as i've neaver done it, but i seam to reamember seeing an artical about it, and looked like they were spreading the case to get the crown wheel out, i'll have a look at some point and see if i can find it.

Bodo

12,421 posts

273 months

Sunday 28th March 2004
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I guess I've seen that case bending in LRO.
James, there are some companies that offer exchange units for some components. Might be worth to have a look in one of those Land Rover mags. Unfortunately, the combination of the 3.54:1 diff with the Salisbury/ENV (?) heavy duty axle is rare.
I've once planned to fit Stage1 axles under my 88 to suit a V8 conversion, but I've never made it, because fuel prices rose then.
I've sold the Stage1 axles I bought for that project, but kept the spring adapters I've machined from cast iron to make them fit the 88 chassis.
If you're interested in them for adaption of an SWB axle, let me know.

fish

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3,998 posts

289 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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Thanks guys. I think I'm going to stick with it and drive it around and see whether it sorts itself out abit. That way I can keep my eyes open for a Stage 1 rear axle and or find out how much a recondition would be.

heightswitch

6,319 posts

257 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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Not sure about stretching axle casings? I do know that the salsbury dif needs a good deal of specialist equipment to strip and re-build. A lot of noise can be removed by adjustment of the gears into mesh, but specialist tools are needed to set the pre-loads etc.
any more than a Half shaft replacement i would leave well alone.

If you want to quieten it down then you could try a heavier viscosity gear oil. Are you using Hypoid and not just an SAE 80 or 90 ?

Neil.

seaton

400 posts

261 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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Found the article, if anyone wants it, I can email it

Picture bellow is taken from it, you actualy compress the case, not a bad memory from 8 yrs ago



>> Edited by seaton on Monday 29th March 21:09

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

265 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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He has taken it out for a drive tonight and he says it doesn't seem too bad. So he is going to run it for a while and see what happens.


Thanks for the responses

Bodo

12,421 posts

273 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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seaton said:


Isn't that the LRO with the diff overhaul in the MoD workshop?

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

265 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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James here:

Right given it a good drive and the diff isn't overheating although it is a bit noiser than perfect but not too bad, therfore I'm going to live with it. I know the people that do the diffs now so I'll just wait and see.

The engine definately needs a good tune and reneedle but its going well.

The front output shaft on the "new" gearbox is pissing oil though so that will need a new seal, ooh well.

Well chuffed with the motor thought.

seaton

400 posts

261 months

Monday 29th March 2004
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Bodo said:

Isn't that the LRO with the diff overhaul in the MoD workshop?



Its actualy from LRW in 1996, I couldn't be bothered to go through the LRO's as theres about five foot of them going back to 1993

James, Landy looks stunning, and no matter you do it will leak, if it doesn't then it needs filling up

>> Edited by seaton on Monday 29th March 21:52

heightswitch

6,319 posts

257 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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I new you needed some pretty specialist tools for a Salsbury diff, but i never new it extended to stretching a diff case?? you learn something new every day.

is it definitely the gearbox front seal leaking oil then and not the rope seal from the back of the engine? My dad taught me the difference at an early age, something about hypoid smelling like cat's piss.

don't let the teething troubles get you down, she is absolutely beautifull.

Have you fitted a radio yet?? Run the diff till it breaks then fix it. it'll cost the same in the long run

Neil.

fish

Original Poster:

3,998 posts

289 months

Wednesday 31st March 2004
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Yep I've decided top run the diff but the front output shaft does need fixing, I'ts not so much a leak more a torrent that pisses onto the exhaust resulting in clouds of white smoke...

Should only be a two min job...